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1. Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 06:16:11 JST Pawlicker
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   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 06:16:11 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     > Are0h does something stupid because of invisible racism
     > Someone complains about this action
     > That person is declared a white supremacist
     > Impassioned post: "I'm not racist, this has to be a mistake!"
     
     Lefty Masto keeps walking through that guy's distortion field and they expect things to make sense in the Bizarro Universe without having to acknowledge the concept of race-hustling.
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   • RedTechEngineer🏴󠁵󠁳󠁯󠁨󠁿🇺🇸:cornbread_the_cat: (redtechengineer@bae.st)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 06:55:52 JST RedTechEngineer🏴󠁵󠁳󠁯󠁨󠁿🇺🇸:cornbread_the_cat:

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     @p @anonymous @PurpCat @ins0mniak hey p, it's time for you to admin the weekly loli question debate.
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   • anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 06:55:53 JST anonymous

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     @p @ins0mniak @PurpCat People are just tired of their spaces being invaded I think. People are completely and totally done with others who won’t either leave or assimilate. If I ever get this way please immediately ban me.

     I don’t know about anyone else, but I actually go red in the face now when people invade my spaces, wherever that might be. So sick and tired of it just leave me alone already! Go fight over there or whatever I am not interested!

   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 06:55:53 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @anonymous @PurpCat @ins0mniak
     
     > People are just tired of their spaces being invaded I think.
     
     Yep; all of those are from 2014 or earlier, so people have been tired of this for at least a decade. It's a thing that will happen, though.
     
     > If I ever get this way please immediately ban me.
     
     I will open fire on anyone that makes me do admin shit. I don't do that any more and I won't even be able to if I get my shit shipped.
     
     > Go fight over there or whatever I am not interested!
     
     Seconded. Pic related.
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   • ins0mniak (ins0mniak@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 06:55:54 JST ins0mniak

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     @p @PurpCat Why cant people just chill and hang man?
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   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 06:55:54 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @ins0mniak @PurpCat Because the second some people find a place to chill and hang, someone will notice that this place isn't being exploited and will show up to exploit it, then their opposition will notice that the place is being exploited unopposed and show up to claim their chunk, and then both of them will shout at people saying "I wish none of you had shown up to exploit the place."
     
     See also:
     https://meaningness.com/geeks-mops-sociopaths
     https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/12/17/the-toxoplasma-of-rage/
     https://medium.com/@maradydd/when-nerds-collide-31895b01e68c
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   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 08:43:43 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @anonymous @PurpCat @ins0mniak
     
     > It’s an ongoing problem, humans have this incessant need to drag everyone else into their personal bullshit. For whatever reason.
     
     That "Toxoplasma of Rage" article is very illuminating.
     
     > I don’t know what you classify banning under, moderation or administration, but also feel free to block me.
     
     See attached (screenshot of https://freespeechextremist.com/objects/f627a3d0-766d-41dc-bd8e-93d19dc420a3 ). I don't remember why I dug it up but I think it was for this thread. I don't remember what it had to do with this thread. I'm not even sure it was this thread.
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   • anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 08:43:44 JST anonymous

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     @p @PurpCat @ins0mniak >all of those are from 2014 or earlier, so people have been tired of this for at least a decade. It’s an ongoing problem, humans have this incessant need to drag everyone else into their personal bullshit. For whatever reason.

     >I will open fire on anyone that makes me do admin shit. I don’t know what you classify banning under, moderation or administration, but also feel free to block me.

   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 08:53:30 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @p @PurpCat @anonymous @ins0mniak Classic broken gif
   • anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 08:53:31 JST anonymous

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     @ins0mniak @PurpCat @p >runningman.gif >OH FU >1911.png >HEY DID YOU HEAR ABOUT HITLER/STALIN TODAY?

   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 08:53:31 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @anonymous @ins0mniak @PurpCat
     
     >runningman.gif
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   • anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 08:53:32 JST anonymous

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     @ins0mniak @PurpCat @p >B-B-BUH MUH CENTRIST MUH COWARD Okay well you go be brave, over there please.

   • ins0mniak (ins0mniak@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 08:53:32 JST ins0mniak

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     @anonymous @PurpCat @p One of those idiots came running up behind me as i was at an ATM. Like I thought for a second i was gonna get jacked.
   • ins0mniak (ins0mniak@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 08:53:33 JST ins0mniak

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     @anonymous @p @PurpCat Im with you on that...I cant stand people trynna conscript me into their shit.
     
     Like Im going to 7/11 I dont care about this lol
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 09:19:06 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @p @PurpCat @anonymous @ins0mniak Half of the gif goes blank, flashes and restarts. Seems to be broken. It is loaded in
   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 09:19:07 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @dcc @PurpCat @anonymous @ins0mniak I am looking directly at that gif working fine. It is 11MB so maybe you didn't give it a second to load. https://freespeechextremist.com/media/9b297a9b-e9bf-4e40-9529-4501602b9ffc/out.gif?name=out.gif
   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 09:29:34 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @dcc @PurpCat @anonymous @ins0mniak I don't know. Media proxy? Try forcing a reload.
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 09:29:34 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @p @PurpCat @anonymous @ins0mniak No media proxy here
   • ins0mniak (ins0mniak@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 09:34:22 JST ins0mniak

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     @p @anonymous @PurpCat @dcc FSE is the Night City of fedi...like we do what we do
   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 09:34:22 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @ins0mniak @PurpCat @anonymous @dcc
     
     > FSE is the Night City of fedi
     
     NICE
     
     Also:
     
     :bruceforsythe: Can't be assassinated by the second-in-command if there is no one in charge.
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   • anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 09:34:23 JST anonymous

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     @p @dcc @PurpCat @ins0mniak I had the same issue when I tried to load in tab but the preview seemed to work fine.

   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 09:34:23 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @anonymous @PurpCat @dcc @ins0mniak It's not a preview, though, like FSE doesn't thumbnail anything, it just embeds the image.
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 09:35:10 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @p @PurpCat @anonymous @ins0mniak Anni has some one in charge, just no sarge :biden_cream:
   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 09:46:43 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 09:47:04 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 10:04:45 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @dcc @PurpCat @anonymous @ins0mniak Shouldn't have used Brand X.
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   • anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 11:51:04 JST anonymous

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     @p @PurpCat @ins0mniak Not a bad read.

     I disagree that he kind of implies that it’s some kind of natural force that is causing all this division, but he quickly course corrects. I do think this is not entirely natural, that forces (whom/whatever they may be) are helping to drive this division.

     While money certainly plays a critical role here I don’t think it’s the only factor. Sure, money is important. Yes, media companies like money, and everyone likes attention (which in a lot of cases directly translates into monetary gain). But like he mentions in the article we used to get along generally fine before. At least we could generally agree to not attack someone not directly involved. We can’t even do that anymore. I could probably speculate forever on the why. Perhaps another day.

     I could be missing something though because this will be the first time in a long time I’ve read something this long; my ability to read already being severely impaired by sub-par education and a lack of desire to engage in the medium.

     >And this is a big reason that Twitter went from “shitty” to “completely intolerable”: Twitter decided it was Important and then they started pushing out people that didn’t want to engage in whatever the news outlets or advertisers or activist mobs wanted them to engage in. I mean that’s kind of anywhere anymore right?

     >demanding that some ethical board start controlling the process of software engineering because what if injustice. I am getting flashbacks to motherboard/mainboard and master/slave. The most descriptive and accurate words aren’t okay because racism. Not to mention the whole discussion was fucking retarded and gay. Probably fake too.

   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 11:51:04 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     > I do think this is not entirely natural, that forces (whom/whatever they may be) are helping to drive this division.
     
     Yeah, anything big happens and someone will try to coopt it. Like, he's got these observations about how people would act and you've got Bernays laying a lot of these things out and talking about how to steer them. Like Bernays is the reason for the stereotype of the chain-smoking feminist: he worked for the tobacco companies and women didn't typically smoke so half the market was closed, and he was tasked with getting them to start. His strategy was to get smoking associated with suffrage and it worked more or less and then became a self-perpetuating thing.
     
     > At least we could generally agree to not attack someone not directly involved. We can’t even do that anymore. I could probably speculate forever on the why. Perhaps another day.
     
     The ingroup is the ingroup, the outgroup is an undifferentiated mass of terrible people, so "Liberals get the bullet, too" turns into a communist slogan because although the liberals are also opposed to right-wing policies, they are not part of the communists' ingroup.
     
     > I mean that’s kind of anywhere anymore right?
     
     Yeah. Anywhere that happens and can be sort of centrally enforced, so as long as you don't build a rudder, no one can put their hands on the wheel and move the boat. This is why the mastodongs keep trying to build a centralized authority over the fediverse: they want a rudder. I'm sure most of them don't understand what happens when you build a rudder, but I'm also certain that some of them do.
     
     > I am getting flashbacks to motherboard/mainboard and master/slave.
     
     Same group, yeah, but a different tack: Tufekci was saying that if you learn to sort an array of integers (I'm not exaggerating) without injecting social justice into the curriculum, then you would be hacking out code for the Nazis to sort Jews in no time. (She went on to write some poorly conceived but widely disseminated article in Wired about how freedom of speech should be eliminated because sometimes people use it to advocate for positions she doesn't like, to no one's surprise.)
     
     > The most descriptive and accurate words aren’t okay because racism. Not to mention the whole discussion was fucking retarded and gay. Probably fake too.
     
     Yeah, that tactic actually goes back to the Ada Initiative, and if you read anything about them, even the stuff they wrote about themselves, you'll see where the problem came from.
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   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 11:51:05 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @anonymous @PurpCat @ins0mniak Well, if you keep going, there's this bit about the mechanics of Tumblr actually turning the place into that kind of environment and then the part that is germane to your remark is a continuation of that part. It's a long read but it's a good read. So you had said,
     
     > humans have this incessant need to drag everyone else into their personal bullshit. For whatever reason.
     
     And then the guy starts to talk about this happening on Tumblr:
     
     > “friends if you are reblogging things that are not about ferguson right now please queue them instead. please pay attention to things that are more important. it’s not the time to talk about fandoms or jokes it’s time to talk about injustices.”
     
     And this is a big reason that Twitter went from "shitty" to "completely intolerable": Twitter decided it was Important and then they started pushing out people that didn't want to engage in whatever the news outlets or advertisers or activist mobs wanted them to engage in. And you've got dipshits like Zeynep Tufekci saying "Once you start sorting an array, you have an ontological problem" while demanding that some ethical board start controlling the process of software engineering because what if injustice.
   • anonymous (anonymous@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 11:51:06 JST anonymous

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     @p @PurpCat @ins0mniak The article makes the point of standing on principle’s sake sometimes being a virtue-signal. I can’t outright disagree.

     I often find myself struggling with supporting something I believe in my heart to even it’s most absolute extremes. There can be many reasons for this, and often one I tackle is what implications does it have for freedom. Of course there’s the obvious virtue-signal angle, especially when supporting it would only hurt my position.

     Still haven’t figured out how to square this circle.

   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 11:51:29 JST Pawlicker

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     @p @anonymous @ins0mniak >Yeah. Anywhere that happens and can be sort of centrally enforced, so as long as you don't build a rudder, no one can put their hands on the wheel and move the boat. This is why the mastodongs keep trying to build a centralized authority over the fediverse: they want a rudder. I'm sure most of them don't understand what happens when you build a rudder, but I'm also certain that some of them do.
     
     I mean, look at BlueSky. They love the idea of BlueSky because they don't have to take accountability for their consequences or do any of the heavy moderation lifting. They can click report and the mean person goes away.
     
     Compare this to the fediverse, where all they can do is make some centralized blocklist like thebad.space or FediSeer.com. But then when their own instances or pals end up blocked by many importing these lists, that's when the fun really begins. Which is what OP documented, the kind of people using these fucking tools getting eaten by their own creations.
   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 12:07:11 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @PurpCat @anonymous @ins0mniak
     
     > See the summer of Floyd.
     
     You should read the article, it's a good article.
   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 12:07:12 JST Pawlicker

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     @p @anonymous @ins0mniak this would repeat itself heavily on twitter and communities from Tumblr.
     
     See the summer of Floyd.
   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 12:07:20 JST Pawlicker

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     @p @anonymous @ins0mniak The first thing that I notice is about campus rape accusations. It's crazy how fast things change but not really. Now the hot shit is getting a sex change and calling people bigots online for not caving, and making up drama over fake suicides and "this store oppressed me."
     
     Tumblr had a lot of things boosting memetics aside from the reblog and inline comment functionality (seen today with quote posts and tweets), like anon asks which could either be used to run crazy blogs/horny blogs, or to shit talk people without them knowing who. I remember fucking with people with anon asks, and they'd be trying to figure out who you were like some prank call victim, good times.
     
     >Every community on Tumblr somehow gets enmeshed with the people most devoted to making that community miserable. The tiny Tumblr rationalist community somehow attracts, concentrates, and constantly reblogs stuff from the even tinier Tumblr community of people who hate rationalists and want them to be miserable (no, well-intentioned and intelligent critics, I am not talking about you).
     
     A lot of it actually was because Tumblr users came from a website also notorious for such a userbase, Livejournal, which was populated by that kind of internet garbage. They were doing callout posts before Tumblr, and the infamous Final Fantasy House post was one such post. I vividly remember now deleted blogs that also would read like ED pages or KF threads on people they really hated (there was one about the infamous furry webcomic Jack and it's creator, along with ones on a major Pokemon community with a pedo problem and the whole PurpleKecleon/GlitchedPuppet saga).
     
     I also remember that there were LJ posts on people that really reeked of such, especially from furries. It all comes down from the idea of "mob justice", and the only thing that scares them off is if you lawyer up (this happened with Vinesauce Vinny).
   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 26-Nov-2023 13:51:49 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @ins0mniak @PurpCat I think I've spammed the other two links a lot, but the last one, "When Nerds Collide" in 2014, that's a really good one. I wish meeejum dot com didn't suck so hard.
     
     > This phenomenon explains much of the backlash from weird nerds against "brogrammers" and "geek feminists" alike. (If you thought the conflict was only between those two groups, or that someone who criticises one group must necessarily be a member of the other, then you haven't been paying close enough attention.) Both groups are latecomers barging in on a cultural space that was once a respite for us, and we don't appreciate either group bringing its cultural conflicts into our space in a way that demands we choose one side or the other.