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1. 🌲Hidden🌲 (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 01:43:01 JST 🌲Hidden🌲
   If I was skilled enough to pretend not to have a soul I could do very well for myself pretty quickly I think
   • Construction Worker (mercurialbuilding@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 01:42:53 JST Construction Worker

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     • Leaf Lord
     @Leaflord @hidden I don't understand what it means to be connected to reality without having an active observer, it seems like an oxymoron
   • Leaf Lord (leaflord@leafposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 01:42:54 JST Leaf Lord

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     In a similar vein : it's how people think that meditation/prayer is sitting there and doing nothing for 10 hours when in reality it is supposed to be a moment of deep thought, contemplation, and introspection.
     
     Hollywood and its consequences/hylics and their consequences.
   • 🌲Hidden🌲 (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 01:42:55 JST 🌲Hidden🌲

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     @MercurialBuilding No it’s the most intimate possible experience of reality
   • 🌲Hidden🌲 (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 01:42:56 JST 🌲Hidden🌲

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     @MercurialBuilding Immediate presence doesn’t have observation or critique it just involves being intimately connected to the world and lowering your barriers. What you describe sounds kinda like mindfulness, albeit grumpy mindfulness, which is good too, it’s important to develop yourself with observation sometimes, I agree.
   • Construction Worker (mercurialbuilding@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 01:42:56 JST Construction Worker

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     @hidden I'd think anything without active observation is disassociation
   • 🌲Hidden🌲 (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 01:42:57 JST 🌲Hidden🌲

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     @MercurialBuilding I don’t think that’s immediate presence, mostly because you’re not present. Just sounds dissociative
   • Construction Worker (mercurialbuilding@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 01:42:57 JST Construction Worker

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     @hidden if you're defining 'immediate presence' as in 'actively observing what you're doing, living in the moment, commenting and critiquing how you're acting' then yeah that's soulful
     
     Disassociation is easy, default, and soulless
   • Construction Worker (mercurialbuilding@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 01:42:58 JST Construction Worker

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     @hidden fuck off no way I've been soulless until a few days ago
     
     Immediate presence is selfish hedonism where you don't schedule anything because you don't trust your schedule, you stay up super late on the internet, and you're vaguely depressed and dont know why
   • Construction Worker (mercurialbuilding@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 01:42:59 JST Construction Worker

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     @hidden It requires active effort for your soul to work, if you're in a state of mind where you only think about the immediate present, you're soulless
   • 🌲Hidden🌲 (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 01:42:59 JST 🌲Hidden🌲

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     @MercurialBuilding ❌ immediate present is height of soul activity
   • Construction Worker (mercurialbuilding@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 01:43:00 JST Construction Worker

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     @hidden It's easy just get no sleep drink a shitton of coffee and do the duties you have for the past few years then just repeat this a billion times, eventually you'll have no energy to use your soul
   • 🌲Hidden🌲 (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 01:43:00 JST 🌲Hidden🌲

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     @MercurialBuilding I tried ))))):
   • Leaf Lord (leaflord@leafposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 01:43:27 JST Leaf Lord

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     The nature of reality, at its core, is paradoxical.
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   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 01:45:50 JST Machismo

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     @Leaflord @hidden @MercurialBuilding says who
   • Leaf Lord (leaflord@leafposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 01:46:24 JST Leaf Lord

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     Me.
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   • Leaf Lord (leaflord@leafposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 02:33:20 JST Leaf Lord

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     Love is... le bad
   • Construction Worker (mercurialbuilding@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 02:33:21 JST Construction Worker

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     @hidden @Leaflord I suppose I can understand in theory being near someone you love and being real satisfied and connected without needing to be actively observing
     
     Not sure if that's a good thing, though, to just be satisfied in the moment like that, I lack experience to comment
   • 🌲Hidden🌲 (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 02:33:21 JST 🌲Hidden🌲

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     @MercurialBuilding @Leaflord Love is a good example yes, it takes your out of your head in the most profound way
     
     Is that good? Yes my nigga it’s good frfrfr
   • 🌲Hidden🌲 (hidden@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 02:33:22 JST 🌲Hidden🌲

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     @MercurialBuilding @Leaflord Are you more connected to someone when you look at them from a distance, or when you touch them up close? Observation is a lens, not wrong by any means, it’s useful. But it’s far from intimate. The dissociation you talk about is even further since you’re not even looking at the world like you are during observation, you were separate from it entirely.
   • Construction Worker (mercurialbuilding@cawfee.club)'s status on Saturday, 25-Nov-2023 02:33:37 JST Construction Worker

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     • Leaf Lord
     @Leaflord @hidden Not love, but prioritizing happiness over observation