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1. Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2023 07:08:45 JST Aral Balkan

   Israel-Hamas war leaves thousands of Palestinians in Gaza facing ‘death by starvation,’ aid group warns.

   https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israel-hamas-war-gaza-palestinians-face-death-by-starvation-aid-group-says/

   #israel #palestine #gaza #genocide #ethnicCleaning #crimesAgainstHumanity

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2023 07:22:28 JST Aral Balkan

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     • xs4me2

     @xs4me2 No one contends Hamas are barbarians. That neither excuses nor justifies the abject inhumanity Israel has unleashed on the Palestinian people. If you’re going to criticise Hamas for their savagery, at the very least maybe try not to outdo them in it.

     The “but Hamas” whataboutery is tantamount to genocide apologism at this point and my patience for it is running very thin indeed.

   • xs4me2 (xs4me2@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2023 07:22:29 JST xs4me2

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     @aral

     Unacceptable... you can blame Israel, but do also blame Hamas for this...

   • Coach Pāṇini ® (paninid@mastodon.world)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2023 07:23:31 JST Coach Pāṇini ®

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     @aral it’s not an accidental outcome, this is by design.

     The authoritarians with bloodlust in positions of authority within Israel don’t view Palestinians as humans.

     An absolutely incredible slipping off the mask.

     Yitzhak Rabin rolls over in his grave.

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2023 14:42:23 JST Aral Balkan

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     • xs4me2
     • Magnus Ahltorp

     @ahltorp @xs4me2 This.

   • Magnus Ahltorp (ahltorp@mastodon.nu)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2023 14:42:24 JST Magnus Ahltorp

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     • xs4me2

     @xs4me2 @aral Yes, but if we write that in every Mastodon post about everything, there will be no space left.

   • xs4me2 (xs4me2@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2023 14:42:25 JST xs4me2

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     @aral

     It is not that simple, it's not black and white, how many years in history do you want to go back to find the causes... so don't pretend it is.

     Hamas are a bunch of fundamentalist murderous thugs out to erase Israel from this world and raise a theocratic state that the Palestinians only will suffer in. Netanyahu is a corrupt crook that needs the right wing fringe lunatics to stay in power with 52 or so percent.... the settler and apartheid policy has created that monster...

   • HeavenlyPossum (heavenlypossum@kolektiva.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2023 16:36:12 JST HeavenlyPossum

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     • xs4me2

     @aral @xs4me2

     I really, deeply didn’t expect you to miss the point this badly.

     One atrocity cannot justify another, and opposing one atrocity is not an endorsement of atrocities committed by someone else.

   • HeavenlyPossum (heavenlypossum@kolektiva.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2023 16:36:13 JST HeavenlyPossum

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     • xs4me2

     @xs4me2 @aral

     Yeah, I read them.

     It would similarly be ok to say something like “the US shouldn’t drop nuclear bombs on the civilians of Hiroshima and Nagasaki” without adding “but Japan attacked Pearl Harbor!”

   • xs4me2 (xs4me2@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2023 16:36:13 JST xs4me2

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     • HeavenlyPossum

     @HeavenlyPossum @aral

     They dropped them and it ended the war. Period.
     Japan’s imperial ambitions started this war. And don’t get me started on the atrocities they inflicted. We can start with Manchuria if you want…

   • HeavenlyPossum (heavenlypossum@kolektiva.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2023 16:36:14 JST HeavenlyPossum

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     • xs4me2

     @aral @xs4me2

     Sure, you can blame Hamas but also in a more actual sense the nuclear-armed regional hegemon Israel which effectively controls all food imports into Gaza and has destroyed all of the infrastructure necessary to process imports into edible food.

   • xs4me2 (xs4me2@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2023 16:36:14 JST xs4me2

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     • HeavenlyPossum

     @HeavenlyPossum @aral

     Its what I said.

   • HeavenlyPossum (heavenlypossum@kolektiva.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2023 16:36:14 JST HeavenlyPossum

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     • xs4me2

     @aral @xs4me2

     Sort of but not really. The actor deliberately choosing to starve people to death in Gaza right now is the Israeli state.

   • xs4me2 (xs4me2@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2023 16:36:14 JST xs4me2

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     • HeavenlyPossum

     @HeavenlyPossum @aral

     Then read it again, and my other posts…

     Sick and tired of the pointless and endless destruction and killing.

     No more.

   • xs4me2 (xs4me2@mastodon.social)'s status on Thursday, 09-Nov-2023 16:36:47 JST xs4me2

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     • HeavenlyPossum

     @HeavenlyPossum @aral

     Sure turn the other cheek and let fascism and theocracies take over.

     Hamas needs to be rooted out, this Iranian proxy does the Palestinian cause a big disservice.