Also: -Forum admins reading your PMs; the reason assemblergames stayed up was the admins did just this. -PLEASE SIGN UP TO DO ANYTHING. -Forum paywalls (seriously some do this shit). -Forum moderator more ban happy than LTG in his stream chat. -Jannies censoring discussion to avoid getting nuked by someone else.
A lot of people forgot one of the reasons Discord/Reddit got so fucking big was the lack of moderation at one point or little moderation. Then when a scandal happened, just throw moderation at the problem by the time it has critical mass. Whoopsies. Now Discord went from the cool kids club chat platform to groomer central overnight, and Reddit went from the days of /r/watchpeopledie and edgy shitpost subs to posting there means it's like walking on eggshells. But nobody will move because it's big already, and if you use the same tricks to get big you'll be thrown off hosts for hate speech.
@PhenomX6 reddit and later discord. I'll play devil's advocate though: reddit doesn't store passwords in plain text. Early to mid 2000s forums security was a nightmare
@PhenomX6 also: please present yourself in the presentations thread, and don't you even DARE necropost. By the way, ever since the Internet died the first few pages are bots reposting coolasfuck gifs or corporate propaganda
@PhenomX6 It's a nightmare just trying to locate a forum on a niche subject, whether active or inactive, on search engines today. If you didn't already subscribe to the esoteric lathe workholding forum in 2005, you're not fucking finding it today.
They basically bought out niche forums when the owners wanted to sell out and got old and lost interest for the posts and basically fucked them over. The only forums they don't care about are ones that are unbuyable like Kiwi Farms.
@Kaavik_B@devnull the issue with irc is it's reputation now is picrel. It lacks presence, message syncing, and it's only used by that one guy or a few people who either used it back in the day or insist on it. Discord channels with irc bridges have like 1-2 people on IRC who tend to also be "special" and probably schizophrenic too.
It's from a time when people used desktops and would log into 2-3 computers in different locations. IRC ops were as bad as discord mods too.
@PhenomX6@devnull I'd respond with "we still have IRC" but I wouldn't know, because I haven't been in more than a decade. But maybe IRC can take the place of the *chans, and the fediverse will replace reddit.
There used to be a reddit for everything, but it was easy to look for yours. Fedi, though? There's an instance, yes but how do you find the four other people posting illicit photos of stolen furniture seen at garage sales? It's not like they talk about that on their other accounts.
@PhenomX6@devnull@Kaavik_B when i left my last job, we had had an irc server for over 10 years, but they introduced teams. there was about three of us that still used only irc
@kakkerel@PhenomX6 Or trying to locate anything that is niche, or was once well known but fell by the wayside. Image search is also terrible now too, I was trying to find an old Voat goat comic about hazing newbies but they all “intelligently” just turn up with results about boats or IRL goats. By trying to cater to morons who use search engines with full clause sentence structure, they’ve destroyed search for anyone who actually knew how search terms work.
@Moon@devnull@PhenomX6@Kaavik_B I’ve learned to never get complacent expecting established open standards to remain dominant. All it takes is one vicious snowball effect and then suddenly everyone is on shiny new $PROPRIETARY replacement.
@wrongthink@kakkerel it's also censorship. Case in point search the term "ivermectin dosing" on yandex.com and google.com. you'll get vague bullshit on Google and the thing you want on Yandex.
@wrongthink@devnull@Kaavik_B@Moon or with xmpp. I have a friend who will not touch xmpp because of the shitware Cisco/avaya implementations. Or with email and how Google controls it because everyone uses it.
Hence the issue of mastodon.social being the biggest instance or the weird company buying pawoo and mstdn.jp or whatever that instance is. For some the big concern with pawoo isn't the content that is uploaded due to poor moderation but centralization.
@PhenomX6@kakkerel The best impartial results I have ever been able to get recently have been on a self hosted Yacy instance, but that Java monstrosity is such a pain in the ass to keep up and running once the index starts going past a few hundred GB.
@PhenomX6@devnull >Forum moderator more ban happy than LTG in his stream chat.
Worst example in my experience was some Zelda forum (I can't remember which one) that banned using > for quoting because that's "chan behavior" despite that same format being used in Usenet and Email.
While I miss forums, I don't think I can go back (unless the culture is MUCH more laidback). The moderation on some of them were the fucking worst and they could get away with it because the userbase is much smaller.
The forums that are still active are filled with reCaptcha, CloudFlare, and Google Analytics. Most even block VPNs and TOR.
@devnull@PhenomX6 >create new thread >receive a warning that your thread has been deleted and to please use the search feature >find an existing thread and reply >you have been banned for necro posting
@PhenomX6@devnull@coolboymew That makes me mad even though I never used it. It had a great amount of information on unreleased games, prototypes, etc. I can't imagine how much information is lost because people failed to archive it before it got shut down.
Now you have to go to some Discord server if you want to find some info on unreleased games, prototypes, leaked source code, etc.
I never quite understood the asspain necroing threads caused. If the topic is still relevant then there should be no issues with reviving an old thread full of knowledge and lore. If tranny jannies want it to stay dead then just lock it
@Leaflord@devnull@skylar retarded admins can't tell the difference between newfags asking "how do I run steam on my PC Vista" and someone posting relevant info.
@PhenomX6@devnull@Kaavik_B I've noticed that back in the early 2010s, IRC was actually making a small comeback. It was mostly through web-based clients and I think it was mostly thanks to the rise of livestreaming as most livestream chats at the time were IRC based.
Then, Discord came along and now even FOSS projects are using it. If some video game, open source project, web comic, etc doesn't have a Discord, fans will create an unofficial one and won't even bother touching what the official community is using.
Look ((( works ))) at these International (((( corporations ))) these days
Jews Self hating whites Commies Marxists Anti Whites
I swear 99% of corporations have become political slush fund generation machines not operating for business or profit just to fund the next international action to destroy our nations
The guy that started brave got kicked out of Mozilla for calling out some of the bullshit
@charliebrownau@Moon@devnull@PhenomX6@Kaavik_B i use xmpp predominantly now, after using irc for over a decade (im still on efnet, havent completely left) i hate almost everything about the protocol and trying to develop clients/servers for it