@Sprayfoam_Sal @RupertvonRipp I don’t even blame the women more than 40% though. They’re engaged in a very rough sexual arms race, and despite the high-minded talk online I’ve seen how the “trad” guys act. If she doesn’t take care of him sexually, he’s got other bidders and he’ll move on to somebody who does.
I saw it happen plenty, girls who were from good families, good wife stock, who had a boyfriend that ended up pushing them further and further every time he bumped up against her limits. Just making out becomes just some petting, which then devolves into “just under the shirt”, then full contact, then manual stimulation, then oral, and then they’re getting each other so worked up they’re both pretending anal is a viable option and it’s not that bad because they’ll be married anyway.
So what happens when they break up? Now she’s been marked and abandoned, left to broach the subject with the next trad guy. I’ve been the receiver on this and it’s awful, you’re stuck dealing with someone who has actual spiritual damage done to her, where she’s repentant and in this weird guilty lurch, and you’re left feeling terrible if you want to play around with her too. So she ends up thinking there’s no point in going back to her old ways, and starts giving up the same sexual skillset to the next guy too.
Brutal cycle. The prescription is marriage.