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1. Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 04:59:58 JST Eugen Rochko

   Thinking about the #Tumblr engineer who said they believe interoperability with the social web would just be a cost center and wouldn’t bring any profits. The point is not how interoperability affects the bottom line, the point is that it allows your platform to survive in an ever changing social media landscape and have a bottom line at all. If #Pebble was part of the social web, they would have had a network of 1.8M active users, not 1,000, and perhaps wouldn’t have had to shut down.

   • Javi A. (_jv_@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 05:05:53 JST Javi A.

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     @Gargron I'm an ex-tumblr engineer and I 100% agree with you... Now, I think Cyle post needs to be contextualized with Tumblr's situation: it wasn't so much about not seeing the value, but about tumblr being in a dire position, with very limited resources, and having to focus the few devs it still has on things that stops it from losing money.

   • Jayenkai [ J-N-K ] (jayenkai@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 05:10:48 JST Jayenkai [ J-N-K ]

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     @Gargron I dunno, though. If my stats are anything to go by, they probably had way less users than even that.

     ... I had 3 of the things!

   • Anis (incroyable_anis@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 05:11:01 JST Anis

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     @Gargron et au moins grâce à l'interreaupérabilité des utilisateurs d'autres plateformes peuvent voir ce qu'il s'y passe mais après je me demande comment cela évoluera dans le futur à mon avis Internet sera fragmenté une partie sera interopérable et décentralisée et une autre sera totalement fermée un peu comme mastodonte d'un côté et x.com de l'autre

   • casb osint (casb_osint@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 05:54:17 JST casb osint

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     @Gargron 👌

   • casb osint (casb_osint@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 05:56:05 JST casb osint

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     @Gargron They're extinct dinosaurs, Zhenya, and they should have the flag. This is the truth of life, nothing can be done (

   • Sarah Perez 💙 (sarahp@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 06:00:12 JST Sarah Perez 💙

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     @Gargron thought about this too. Pebble believed trust & safety is too difficult on distributed networks, so made an intentional choice to be a centralized network. That was part of their value prop, but it didn't end up working out for them

   • Calliope (calliope_g@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 08:10:22 JST Calliope

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     @Gargron "too soon," I cry, clutching my chest and trying to connect a pebble to my new phone, failing utterly

   • LBeaudoux (lbdx@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 18:39:14 JST LBeaudoux

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     @Gargron At this stage, the fediverse's audience is too small to attract established social networks, especially when, like #tumblr, they don't distribute much real-time news.

     The #fediverse will take off thanks to the publishers and curators who see #ActivityPub as an "interactive RSS feed" that liberates them from platforms. WordPress and Flipboard can play a key role in this.