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1. nixCraft 🐧 (nixcraft@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 29-Oct-2023 18:38:01 JST nixCraft 🐧

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   • winet (winet@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 29-Oct-2023 18:40:51 JST winet

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     @nixCraft Flask before python. Understandable, have a nice day✌️

   • Zeki Çatav 🤔 ☕ 🕯️🎶 (catavz@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 29-Oct-2023 19:05:25 JST Zeki Çatav 🤔 ☕ 🕯️🎶

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     @nixCraft The Walking Dead, New episode for every year.😉

   • Freevolt (freevolt24@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 29-Oct-2023 19:18:00 JST Freevolt

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     @nixCraft maybe languages cannot be dead. Only new ones can, maybe.

   • Stefan Scholl (stefan_s_from_h@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 29-Oct-2023 19:56:04 JST Stefan Scholl

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     @nixCraft because nobody understood how to make a real alternative to PHP and why people are using it.

     It's very frustrating.PHP should really be dead. It was from a newbie for newbies. But somehow it was kept alive.

     If you want to barf: Read the source code for PHP/FI 2.0

   • nixCraft 🐧 (nixcraft@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 29-Oct-2023 20:17:53 JST nixCraft 🐧

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     Anyone who has worked on a well-developed product knows that you can't replace old working tech like PHP or COBOL in an instant because it will cause more problems than solving them. Not to mention, it always involves heavy costs. The last famous bank wanted to replace COBOL with new tech; the upfront cost for a year project was over 1 billion. The big vendor questions said they can't provide a 101% guarantee of the project's success. That is how complicated things are...

   • nixCraft 🐧 (nixcraft@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 29-Oct-2023 20:23:25 JST nixCraft 🐧

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     Remember, we are dealing with people's money here and not some phone, toy, or laptop that can change CPU arch and everything else. There are specific industries like medical tech or finance regulated heavily compared to, say, Apple or Google phones. Central banks can revoke banking licenses or halt new customer onboarding for non-compliance with laws or any misconduct.

   • Dallman Ross (spamless@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 29-Oct-2023 20:45:05 JST Dallman Ross

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     @nixCraft Yeah. Well, uh, nobody, not even God or Wittgenstein, can guarantee anything 101%. 🤔

   • gi124 (gi124@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 29-Oct-2023 20:47:30 JST gi124

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     @nixCraft interesting. Wikipedia says

     COBOL is still widely used in applications deployed on mainframe computers, such as large-scale batch and transaction processing jobs. [...]. Most programming in COBOL is now purely to maintain existing applications; however, many large financial institutions were still developing new systems in COBOL as late as 2006.

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COBOL?wprov=sfla1

   • lamy, david (led@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 29-Oct-2023 22:19:47 JST lamy, david

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     @nixCraft
     2023: PHP is resurrected, learn PHP

   • Cav (cav@infosec.exchange)'s status on Sunday, 29-Oct-2023 22:20:19 JST Cav

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     @nixCraft speaking of people's money...

     We see how much is already being spent in the Veterans Affairs to replace their legacy system. It's been extremely difficult to succeed in that so far and the newer system has already been linked to deaths of veterans. That resulted in a pause of further rolling it out and changing up a bunch of other things.

     While this is happening it is costing the tax payers quite a bit to watch this disaster unfold.

   • Dasnap (dasnap@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 29-Oct-2023 23:02:09 JST Dasnap

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     @nixCraft I feel sorry for anyone who made all of those jumps while PHP peeps became wizards at the language.

   • Wayne Dixon (waynedixon@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 29-Oct-2023 23:09:38 JST Wayne Dixon

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     @nixCraft i still prefer PHP over other interpreted languages. Is it flawed, yes, but still robust.

   • Simulation#6 (simulation6@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 29-Oct-2023 23:16:54 JST Simulation#6

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     @nixCraft How many new PHP projects have heard about? Eventually enough existing PHP applications will have died/been converted that PHP will not be well supported (looking at you GWT).

   • Doug McArthur (dougmcarthur@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 29-Oct-2023 23:35:19 JST Doug McArthur

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     • Marco Arment

     @nixCraft it may be kept alive indefinitely, solely by @marcoarment 😊

   • ptDave (ptdave20@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 30-Oct-2023 00:17:37 JST ptDave

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     @nixCraft no one has ever said learn angularjs over php. That one line made this attempt on a meme stupid.

   • Gonzalo (grilix@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 30-Oct-2023 00:43:29 JST Gonzalo

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     @Peludo veo estos y me acuerdo de un compañero 👀

   • Stefan Scholl (stefan_s_from_h@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 30-Oct-2023 03:57:35 JST Stefan Scholl

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     @nixCraft Some famous PHP guru once said, “There's a rewrite in 3 years anyway.”

   • Molly B (mjibrower@mastodon.social)'s status on Tuesday, 31-Oct-2023 09:51:05 JST Molly B

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     @nixCraft Sometimes I wonder what happened to the .asp guys who took over my PHP users’ group in 2002 and forced me out. They probably moved on to .NET and left higher ed and make 3x what I do, come to think of it

   • Richard (richard_merren@mastodon.social)'s status on Wednesday, 01-Nov-2023 00:34:34 JST Richard

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     @nixCraft I remember a conversation in the 90s where I was a young programmer extolling the virtues of Cold Fusion and the older programmer I was talking to just laughed at me and said not to bother with it. I never saw CF in the wild again and he was totally right.