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1. Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 21:06:43 JST Moon
   I really really need out from under google
   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 21:06:42 JST Machismo

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     • whiteline
     @whiteline @xian @Moon I exclusively use OSM for navigation.
     By which I mean I read local maps about as often as I consult my fone.
   • whiteline (whiteline@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 21:06:43 JST whiteline

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     @Moon @xian
     
     i've resolved to accepting using gmail, google search, maps, meet for lack of better alternatives
     
     some of their services have partial replacements, like openstreetmap, but only partial
   • 'ol Mitch (olmitch@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 21:07:12 JST 'ol Mitch

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     • whiteline
     @Moon @whiteline @xian getting an iPhone to escape from Google is like asking drug cartels to protect you from street gangs https://murena.com/
   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 21:07:13 JST Moon

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     • whiteline
     @whiteline @xian I got an iphone so now I have apple Maps, it's going to be hard but I'm going to get out from under gmail. For meeting I'm just at the whim of whoever sets up the meeting and I'm forced to use that.
     Machismo repeated this.
   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 21:14:28 JST Machismo

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     • whiteline
     • 'ol Mitch
     @olmitch @xian @whiteline @Moon This sources from places other than OSM? Since I don't think OSM includes sat maps? (Actually does it? Maybe it's just not in any of the clients I use.)
     Anyway, my only real requirement for fone map is "supports offline navigation", so I'm interested, since currently OM seems like the only really viable choice; and it has some questionable choices sometimes.
     But seems like I can't actually download it? I can't find it on frdoid or izzyondroid... It is on apkpure at least, but seems like it isn't open-source? I might go ask them about it.
   • 'ol Mitch (olmitch@shitposter.club)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 21:14:29 JST 'ol Mitch

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     • whiteline
     • 'ol Mitch
     @Moon @whiteline @xian https://www.magicearth.com/
   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 28-Oct-2023 21:26:28 JST Machismo

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     • whiteline
     • 'ol Mitch
     @olmitch @xian @whiteline @Moon This is very strange, /e/ is just a reskin of lineage with marketing, sold preinstalled so people don't have to fuck around flashing and hoping they don't brick it. Why would there be a reskin of that? Sounds like some sort of mlm scheme to me.
     Though it seems like not all the hardware they sell is second-hand? They're actually putting together their own fone? I guess that justifies their existence, but you shouldn't buy anything else from them, just buy it direct from source. Especially fairphones, they're very easy to flash.