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1. Flaky (flaky@awoo.fyi)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 09:28:45 JST Flaky

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   • Eric Malves :Blujfthr:
   • Konaburd

   While I think the API side of things are better (everyone has to follow the Mastodon API here even when Mastodon lacks some features, whereas Bluesky’s API is basically near the same as Atproto’s), I definitely think they’re talking about the community more than anything. Things are a lot looser on Bluesky. There might also be some preconceived notions from negative experiences, too. Someone I know said that they hated Mastodon’s deck UI. Don’t know when that was but in any case it falls back into that.

   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 09:28:45 JST Pawlicker

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     • Eric Malves :Blujfthr:
     • Konaburd
     @Flaky @EricMalves @Konaburd much of it imo comes down to bad mastodon instance owners who have gone beyond the worst of culture war straight to "overcontrolling forum moderator circa 2009"
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   • Konaburd (konaburd@squawk.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 09:28:48 JST Konaburd

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     • Eric Malves :Blujfthr:

     @Flaky @EricMalves I get why people use Bluesky (I use it myself) but I don't understand people who act like it is better when it is clearly not any better, it's just different, and not by a large margin in my opinion!

   • Eric Malves :Blujfthr: (ericmalves@squawk.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 09:28:49 JST Eric Malves :Blujfthr:

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     • Konaburd

     @Konaburd I have tried to get going on bluesky but can’t get it rolling. By default it won’t show posts with under X number of likes.

     Starting an instance from scratch was hard to get connections but joining an already running instance, it’s easy to find folks to follow.

     Moderation tools do exactly as I need, plus I could go further if desired.

     I also don’t try to push it though, people get extra peeved when they find out you are involved in administering an instance. They assume you are trying to pump your user count up.

   • Flaky (flaky@awoo.fyi)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 09:28:49 JST Flaky

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     • Eric Malves :Blujfthr:
     • Konaburd

     I’ve been using both and I feel more comfortable making quick posts on Bluesky while I feel more comfortable making longer posts on fedi. Might be the post limits though.

     As for why people are flocking to Bluesky? Two things IMO:

     1. Friends - people want to talk to their friends, never mind if the service has less features. It’s why Twitter is still around despite Elon constantly making it a toxic place to use, and the general audience moving away from Twitter seems to like Bluesky. Maybe it’s the familiarity of it as well.
     2. The audience on the fediverse making average users feel unwelcome. There was a post about Bluesky users being asked why they don’t want to join fedi and some of the reasons include having to abide by unwritten rules that weren’t a thing on the instance they were on, or feeling restricted as if they were posting on LinkedIn rather than the Twitter they once knew. Add to that the very extreme sides of the fediverse and I can see why people would rather join Bluesky, despite the lack of features.
   • Konaburd (konaburd@squawk.social)'s status on Monday, 23-Oct-2023 09:28:50 JST Konaburd

     It never ceases to amaze me how hard people shit on Mastodon. This post is from Bluesky, but like, I have used Twitter, Bluesky, and Mastodon and I find Mastodon to be the EASIEST out of all of them.

     On Mastodon I don't worry about my post text limit. I type until I am satisfied. On Bluesky I have to carefully craft my words so they make sense but still fit in an arbitrary character count of 300.

     Also Bluesky doesn't have:
     DMs
     Hashtags
     Pinned posts
     GIFs or video support
     Post editing
     And more!

     So like, where is the competition? I don't understand why they think it is hard. I open Mastodon just like Twitter and post just like Twitter. It isn't any more of a hassle than any other program, in fact the character limit makes it less of a hassle. I feel like the mental gymnastics are strong here.

     #mastodon #bluesky #blueskysocial