@scalar @Twoinchdestroya I guess I’m talking more about the BAP guys I talk to IRL. They almost always seem like they’re embarrassed of their prior phases of allegiance. Avid, loud groypers until the gayness got to be too much to bear looking to never replicate that experience again.
All the twitter RW thought seems to be fairly rootless in any practical terms, they talk about being men of history and classical literature while condemning the simplest, most important act the average man can achieve: being a good father to children that would pass for their own grandparents.
Everyone wants to die for the cause, nobody wants to live for it.