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1. this ad CAN be blocked, bitch (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 06:53:45 JST this ad CAN be blocked, bitch
   Yes X is actually kind of bad (bugs that haven't been patched since nearly the beginning of X itself) but I'm not switching to it until:
   
   A. More people start to adopt it and all the good software is there
   B. PEOPLE STOP SHOVING IT DOWN MY FUCKING THROATS LIKE THE RUSTACEANS
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 06:53:44 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @kirby >is actually kind of bad
     Less than wayshit......
   • this ad CAN be blocked, bitch (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 06:58:08 JST this ad CAN be blocked, bitch

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     @dcc I mean you certainly have to take into consideration the bugs that have existed since 1988.... that's before you and I were born, that's probably way before most people on the fediverse were born... maybe it IS time for something new to take the stage
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 06:58:08 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @kirby Having a bug so old means that something is going right..... and yes wayland has more bugs than x
   • احمدابن محمد الخيام (sysrq@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 06:58:28 JST احمدابن محمد الخيام

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     @kirby @dcc
     Waaaaaait, I have an article for this, gimme a minute
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   • this ad CAN be blocked, bitch (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:03:05 JST this ad CAN be blocked, bitch

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     @dcc what makes you think that? Flawed logic
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:03:05 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @kirby Because its not been discovered for ever. Wayland will never be good, thats the simple truth.
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:08:27 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @kirby Thats not what i said, (although security through obscurity is not a bad thing to have as well) but it shows that they have to now look way back to new bugs.
   • this ad CAN be blocked, bitch (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:08:28 JST this ad CAN be blocked, bitch

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     @dcc this is just security through obscurity, which has been proved to not work time and time again
   • this ad CAN be blocked, bitch (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:13:30 JST this ad CAN be blocked, bitch

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     @dcc lol, you suck at programming
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:13:30 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     @kirby I have programed some, nothing big though.
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:25:07 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     • احمدابن محمد الخيام
     @sysrq @kirby Do the words as well not make sense?
   • احمدابن محمد الخيام (sysrq@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:25:08 JST احمدابن محمد الخيام

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     @kirby @dcc
     The irony of a openbsd user insisting security through obscurity is not a bad thing
   • this ad CAN be blocked, bitch (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:25:09 JST this ad CAN be blocked, bitch

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     @dcc please start learning about common security practices when writing code then.
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:30:57 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     • احمدابن محمد الخيام
     @sysrq @kirby More referring to things less to do with code its self, aka log in pages.
   • احمدابن محمد الخيام (sysrq@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:30:58 JST احمدابن محمد الخيام

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     @dcc @kirby
     What?
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:35:58 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     • Pawlicker
     @PurpCat @kirby And wayland sucks more :sf:
   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:35:59 JST Pawlicker

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     @kirby @dcc remember the unix haters handbook has a whole chapter on why x11 sucks ass. It talked about how it could make a high end workstation run like an apple ii or some similar metaphor, all to display xclock and nothing else.
   • mia (mia@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:37:23 JST mia

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     @dcc @kirby
     
     You should see Kirby's webserver. It always returns 200.
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   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:37:33 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     • mia
     @mia @kirby :alex_lol:
   • mia (mia@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:38:41 JST mia

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     • احمدابن محمد الخيام
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     @sysrq @kirby @dcc
     
     changing ssh to a non-standard port expands the area needed for scanning, which increases visibility, and is a useful part of layered defense, they're not wrong, you just can't count on it alone.
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   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:40:33 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     • mia
     @kirby @mia I remember
   • mia (mia@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:40:34 JST mia

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     @kirby @dcc
     
     I know it's a joke, I made it. :)
   • this ad CAN be blocked, bitch (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:40:34 JST this ad CAN be blocked, bitch

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     @mia @dcc I'm telling dem
   • this ad CAN be blocked, bitch (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:40:35 JST this ad CAN be blocked, bitch

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     • mia
     @mia @dcc :(
     
     (Also this is a joke from the irc if you don't remember)
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:42:07 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     • Pawlicker
     @PurpCat @kirby Uh yes, the entire wayshit stack is horrible. If you want a techincal explanation go look at one of p's threads about it.
   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:42:08 JST Pawlicker

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     @dcc @kirby you tell me
   • mia (mia@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:44:48 JST mia

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     • احمدابن محمد الخيام
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     @kirby @dcc @sysrq
     
     You ignored what I said, I pointed to objective things that can be used. Please explain how nmap for ssh login to find it doesn't leave actionable data in your logs and increase the cost of the attack.
     
     Doesn't cryptography largely operate on the premise that you can raise the cost of brute forcing, but it is still possible with infinite power/time?
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   • this ad CAN be blocked, bitch (kirby@lab.nyanide.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:44:49 JST this ad CAN be blocked, bitch

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     • mia
     @mia @dcc @sysrq it's not if there's a dedicated attacker, you're literally just moving the problem. It's only useful to prevent bots from cluttering up the log
   • mia (mia@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 07:45:01 JST mia

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     • احمدابن محمد الخيام
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     • mia
     @kirby @dcc @sysrq
     
     "First, don't be seen. If you are seen, don't get hit. Etc."
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   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 08:13:27 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     • Pawlicker
     @PurpCat @kirby Yet x works better
   • Pawlicker (purpcat@clubcyberia.co)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 08:13:28 JST Pawlicker

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     @dcc @kirby I don't doubt it is.
     
     The problem is in 2-3 decades nobody has even dreamed of a replacement that also isn't shit outside of proprietary stuff.
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 08:15:57 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     • Pawlicker
     @PurpCat @kirby O missread that, a replacement? there may be one.
   • احمدابن محمد الخيام (sysrq@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 19-Oct-2023 09:13:45 JST احمدابن محمد الخيام

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     • Pawlicker
     @PurpCat @dcc @kirby
     There is a replacement but my shrink says if I mention plan9 too many times in a day I might go manic
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