@MeBigbrain @EbonicTutor @King_Porgi @Shadowman311 hard times have a tendency to make hard people.
no idea who of the established guys has what it takes.
rousseau is one guy, warren belog of the njp is another, and probably dozens that neither of us have ever heard off.
the only thing im certain off, is that there wont be just one big group that everyone joins.
north america is just too big with too many fundamentally different people.
ourguys are just one of them, established gangs and even the mormons are another.
then there is the idea of bob the cop, mike the schizo prepper and john the army vet rallying there frens and becoming local warlords.
that one has been the biggest nightmare scenario of the dod since the 90's, so that will probably be a thing as well.