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Sir Hendrick ⚔️ (sirhendrick@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 21:42:10 JST Sir Hendrick ⚔️ -
realcaseyrollins (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 21:42:09 JST realcaseyrollins @SirHendrick I’m choosing to support any citizens on either side that don’t support #Hamas, and to denounce these wtracks by the starts of #Palestine that have endangered the lives of booth Israelis and Palestinians.
It’s not hard to get it right.
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 21:42:09 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @realcaseyrollins @SirHendrick beep boop -
Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 21:43:41 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @realcaseyrollins @SirHendrick what is someone "coping" with if they are skeptical of media reports of goings on halfway around the world? -
Sir Hendrick ⚔️ (sirhendrick@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 21:43:42 JST Sir Hendrick ⚔️ @realcaseyrollins
You trust the media? You trust Netanyahu? Not me. -
realcaseyrollins (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 21:43:42 JST realcaseyrollins @SirHendrick Not believing that #Hamas terrorists ambushed people in #Israel is an otherworldly level of cope
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realcaseyrollins (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 21:43:43 JST realcaseyrollins @SirHendrick You don’t need to have all the answers to know who to root for, unless you think terrorism is justified in certain instances.
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Sir Hendrick ⚔️ (sirhendrick@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 21:43:44 JST Sir Hendrick ⚔️ @realcaseyrollins
It is easier when you have all the answers. I'm not quite there and don't expect to ever reach that point. -
realcaseyrollins (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 21:43:51 JST realcaseyrollins @thatguyoverthere @SirHendrick Well that’s one type of response 😂
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 21:57:50 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @realcaseyrollins @SirHendrick coping with what. Like what is it that a person is struggling to accept that they need to construct a false explanation? All I personally know about $current_thing is what I see on here. The first videos of the hang gliders were top tier productions. I was pretty surprised to see something that literally could have been at the beginning of an action movie to inform the world that Israel is going to war. As a person who just doesn't want to spend money on foreign shit when our country is falling apart at the seams, what is it that I would need to cope with if I said I think there is an element of artificiality to the whole thing? I'm not saying that but what would I be trying to hide from myself if I did (primary use for copium)? I don't have any personal investment in either side. Everyone involved is mired in deceit not just from this event but historically. -
realcaseyrollins (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 21:57:51 JST realcaseyrollins @thatguyoverthere @SirHendrick I mean if you’re coping to the degree that you’re doubtful as to whether or not #Hamas terrorists did heinous things to the people of #Israel, you gotta be the highest in the room, if not on another level of cope.
But, to be fair, if you think terrorism can be justified or if people should side with terrorists in some instances, that’s a moral issue, and might not necessarily be a cope.
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 21:59:58 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @realcaseyrollins @SirHendrick also "terrorism" is a loaded term. Western governments commit terrorism both in our countries and abroad, but because they are the good guys it's ok. I don't see Hama's releasing bioweapons on the entire world's population, and then trying to force the cure which may be even more deadly. -
pwm (pwm@crlf.ninja)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 22:08:52 JST pwm @dicey @SirHendrick It's just that easy Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: likes this. -
dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 22:08:53 JST dicey Religious or ideological programming makes many people unable to see Palestinians as humans. -
Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 22:33:05 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @realcaseyrollins @SirHendrick > one of these sides is beheading children
at least that's what the media is saying. Could be real. could be fake. Hamas could be attacking civilian populated areas and the beheaded children still be a lie. I don't know. I just think we hear this (or some variation) every time $badguy attacks $ally.
Terrorism is specifically using fear tactics for political motives. Committing violence during a war is not terrorism, even if it's vile. -
realcaseyrollins (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 22:33:06 JST realcaseyrollins @thatguyoverthere @SirHendrick That is a fair point. One must admit though, that only one of these sides is beheading children and setting them on fire, and it’s not #Israel.
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realcaseyrollins (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 22:34:35 JST realcaseyrollins @thatguyoverthere @SirHendrick Coping with the attack. There are people who supported the #FreePalestine movement far before the #Hamas attack that are struggling to come to terms with their attack on the civilians, even over a week after it happened. It’s sad to see.
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 22:34:35 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @realcaseyrollins @SirHendrick but I'm sure not everyone who has some doubt is a free palestine hashtag waver, and most of the ones I'm aware of are more in the "this is justified" camp than "this is not happening". -
Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 22:41:39 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @realcaseyrollins @SirHendrick maybe you don't have enough -
realcaseyrollins (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 22:41:40 JST realcaseyrollins @thatguyoverthere @SirHendrick Fair enough. Maybe you just have a bit too much tin foil at home 😂
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 22:43:25 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @realcaseyrollins @SirHendrick same same. I have yet to see a war that was civil. Every war is disgusting and people are always caught in the middle who shouldn't be. -
realcaseyrollins (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 22:43:26 JST realcaseyrollins @thatguyoverthere @SirHendrick We’ll see the thing is though, even putting the beheaded babies claim to the side (to be fair it’s disputed), the tactics #Hamas is using are specifically to incite terror. While it’s sparked a war, I’m not sure if one could call it standard war tactics or behavior.
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realcaseyrollins (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 22:44:01 JST realcaseyrollins @thatguyoverthere @SirHendrick I only have a little 👌🏾
(I’m a #TimPool fan)
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 22:46:41 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @realcaseyrollins @SirHendrick I honestly don't know the situation on the ground over there, but neither do any of the talking heads either in mainstream or more niche circles (like the poolman). Every single one of them is regurgitating something they've been fed. All I know is we have yet another excuse to pump more funny money into the hands of weapons dealers while at home the powers that be continue to try and weaken our own right to bare arms. -
pwm (pwm@crlf.ninja)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 22:47:44 JST pwm @thatguyoverthere @SirHendrick @realcaseyrollins Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: likes this. -
Sir Pantangelini (pantangelini@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 23:05:20 JST Sir Pantangelini @thatguyoverthere @SirHendrick @realcaseyrollins
Is there truly such thing as being caught in the middle.
This strikes me as a lame out for all the head in the sand people
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 23:05:20 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @Pantangelini @SirHendrick @realcaseyrollins I mean civilians are harmed when war comes to their village or town or city or whatever. Sure some might have had ample notice that war was coming, but if they aren't inciting either side and just want to live their lives or raise their kids or what have you, I would say they are being dragged into someone else's fight or caught in the middle. -
Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 23:19:28 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @realcaseyrollins @SirHendrick "I know enough"
You know exactly what you've been fed. Unless you are literally posting out of Israel right now you "think you know" which is not the same thing as "know". -
realcaseyrollins (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 23:19:29 JST realcaseyrollins @thatguyoverthere @SirHendrick I know enough about what #Hamas did in this instance that I don’t need to understand what happened before in order to root for the other side. Now the conflict between #Israel and #Palestine, conversely, is something I’ve always wanted to have an informed opinion on. I have always supported #Israel’s sovereignty but not their government in all cases, but I have not completed the research I’ve been planning on doing.
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 23:31:06 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @realcaseyrollins @SirHendrick > “… the man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.” - Thomas Jefferson -
realcaseyrollins (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 23:31:07 JST realcaseyrollins @thatguyoverthere @SirHendrick I don’t think it’s helpful to distrust the media so much that you don’t believe that anything is going on at all. It’s possible to know what happened without being there, but I also understand that these acts from #Hamas are pretty heinous things to accept.
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 23:45:28 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @realcaseyrollins @SirHendrick what is wrong with the Jefferson Bible? From what I have read he didn't alter content merely an attempt to distill what he thought were the most precious lessons from the new testament. The New Testament itself is a distillation of contemporary writings to capture what the curators thought was most important (not dismissing it's significance). -
realcaseyrollins (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 23:45:29 JST realcaseyrollins @thatguyoverthere @SirHendrick The guy who created the Jefferson Bible would indeed know a lil something about that 😏
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 23:46:24 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @realcaseyrollins @SirHendrick I'm not sure I know what you mean -
realcaseyrollins (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 23:46:25 JST realcaseyrollins @thatguyoverthere @SirHendrick But in all seriousness you do have a point here. I usually take reports with a grain of salt unless confirmed by both sides’ governments or multiple reporters, unless it comes to whether or not aid has been provided or civilians have been targeted
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 17-Oct-2023 23:48:44 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @realcaseyrollins @SirHendrick by alter I mean he didn't add or invent new content. He extracted specific verses and left others. Has no one ever quoted a scripture out of context on the internet before? Hardly the same thing as an inventive media corporation aiming for your attention. -
Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 00:03:14 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @realcaseyrollins @SirHendrick ah I thought maybe you had a legitimate reason for disliking it. I would understand if you didn't like someone's tampering with the Bible. -
realcaseyrollins (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 00:03:15 JST realcaseyrollins @thatguyoverthere @SirHendrick Yes I know, it was a bit of a joke.
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 00:05:50 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @realcaseyrollins @SirHendrick what if your "accepted sources" share sources (so really your information is coming from one source) or they have independent faulty upstream sources. I think too many people use "know" in place of "believe" too often. -
realcaseyrollins (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 00:05:51 JST realcaseyrollins @thatguyoverthere @SirHendrick Essentially, accept two sources for something (at least) before believing it, but it is okay to accept one source if other sources have been known to lie about such things before. That’s the principle I go by.
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 03:52:03 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @realcaseyrollins @SirHendrick I'm not refuting that there is conflict in the region, I'm just saying I don't know of any sources I trust to relay the details. Everyone with direct access to "original sources" has an agenda, and everyone else has to rely on information from them.
Also, and perhaps more importantly to me, this has nothing to do with me. I have plenty of things going on in my own life I don't have time to let a fight in the desert on the other side of the planet consume too much of my time. That includes taking the time to try and verify information coming in. Showing support for one side or the other doesn't change when the chickens wake up or when my dog wants to go out. It doesn't change my need to shit every day or the fact that I have to mine fiat to pay the tax man. My empathy helps no one. It's just extra mental stress people willingly take on with no measurable benefit as far as I can tell. -
realcaseyrollins (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 03:52:04 JST realcaseyrollins @thatguyoverthere @SirHendrick no no no I mean original sources.
so for example, with the beheaded babies story, there were multiple individual sources saying it both did happen and that it didn’t happen, so I’ve filed that away under “probably happened, but disputed”
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realcaseyrollins (realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world)'s status on Wednesday, 18-Oct-2023 03:52:14 JST realcaseyrollins @thatguyoverthere @SirHendrick It’s actually always bothered me until a couple weeks ago, when a friend told me that the point of the Jefferson Bible wasn’t to remove texts he didn’t accept, but rather to make a simplified, condensed version of the Scriptures to share with the Native Americans.
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