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I don't want to get involved in the hellthread but I'm glad that drawthentic retard is getting dragged.
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@wgiwf @givenup @Big_Richard I think there is more to it than that. To assume that the natural order is automatically better is to deny human advancement. Why invent a house when the natural order is to sleep outside or in a cave? Why invent a cup when the natural order is to drink straight out of a stream? If we can invent ways to improve our natural existence, we tend to do so, that is in our human nature. Pointing to failed artificial social structures doesn't mean a successful one can't be made.
And actually neither trads nor futurists are in favor of "natural order." Christianity often asks us to overcome sinful nature in the interest of higher causes, nature is not our master. Fascism is always a progressive ideology.
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@MeBigbrain @wgiwf @givenup @Big_Richard Comparing the creation of useful tools to deliberately monkeying with human genetics is an apples-to-oranges comparison. Really, the most eugenic thing to ever happen was the Catholic church telling our ancestors to stop fucking their first cousins, and giving them a taste for the gallows.
All the "eugenics" we need these days is to induce meaningful struggle from a young age, and to screen for genetic disabilities on a case-by-case basis.
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@givenup @Big_Richard This is something I'm trying to figure out a way to make a story about, trad fascism vs futurist fascism. Seems like a very relevant topic for our guys, it constantly comes up.
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@MeBigbrain @givenup @Big_Richard I see it as reasserting the natural order vs a form of utopianism that is doomed to fail.
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@MeBigbrain @Big_Richard hey
first half of tha tlist was prretty decent tho, till it gets to the weird shit like brothels and eugenics boards
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There are two types of people: hellthread enjoyers and secret hellthread enjoyers.
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@Big_Richard Actually I did already post in it, but I'm just enjoying it now.
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@Godcast @wgiwf @givenup @Big_Richard What do you mean by "monkeying with human genetics?" Does aristocrats not wanting to mingle with commoners qualify? (This would be an example of trad eugenics)