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1. Lapin (lapin@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 12-Oct-2023 04:01:31 JST Lapin

   • Kyonko802

   @Kyonko802 look at this

   https://fxtwitter.com/Nova3_Mane/status/1712088166734168532

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   • Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 12-Oct-2023 04:42:26 JST Kyonko802

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     @lapin loocalizers
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   • Cayhr (cayhr@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 12-Oct-2023 06:21:24 JST Cayhr

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     • Kyonko802
     @lapin I mean, technically correct, right? There's the one guy made of clay or whatever. But even then, he's still referred to as something. Well, in my mind I instantly think of "he", despite him looking androgynous.
     
     Still, I don't think these people fail to understand that, yeah, their ideological enemies actually never did care until THEY invaded. They just cannot understand they are the problem that desperately need their delusions validated via fictional material. A "non-binary" character in fiction, especially animated clay or a fucking robot, does not validate the false idea that it exists IRL, lol.
     
     Also, saying Davinci is trans is as valid as saying Cagliostro frorm GranBlue is trans, or Mai from Blaz Blue being trans. From my understanding, permanently harmful, delusion affirming surgeries =/= magical transformations into the other sex. A genuine storytelling opportunity for strange ideas is, yeah, would a man that is permanently in a genuine female body be able to or eventually fully embrace the female persona? But of course, we know... there are weirdos out there to use it to validate their real world delusions...
     @Kyonko802
   • namedoesntfi (namedoesntfi@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 12-Oct-2023 06:33:19 JST namedoesntfi

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     • Cayhr
     @Cayhr @lapin @Kyonko802 Funny how when people bring the lolicon aspects of the franchise users like this one seethe hard. :shrug:
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   • Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 12-Oct-2023 06:33:19 JST Kyonko802

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     • Cayhr
     @namedoesntfi @Cayhr @lapin
     
     >no mention of the non binary term in the jp version
     
     Huh weird it's almost like they completely ignore what we're actually talking about
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   • Cayhr (cayhr@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 12-Oct-2023 06:53:40 JST Cayhr

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     • namedoesntfi
     @Kyonko802 I think the jump Nova3 is trying to make here is "does not fit in the frame of men and women" must imply the concept of "non-binary." Perhaps the missing variable here is the intent of the writers. I think Nova3 is projecting his confirmation bias on the writing. Does not being in the frame of men and women mean literally? Being a machine, being a clump of dirt, being non-possessive of a human or otherwise humanlike body? Or strange circumstances, such as a person that has the body of a woman but the mind of a man and vice-versa?
     
     The question is: Did the writers intend to imply a third or otherwise state of being that contradicts the binary of humans? Perhaps the script would have used the words male and female instead. After all, male and female are terms given to the two halves of a sexually dimorphic species, especially ours, and funnily enough, the meaning of man and woman is ambiguous at best and undefined at worst in the left's lexicon.
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   • VidMasterEon (vidmastereon@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 12-Oct-2023 07:12:21 JST VidMasterEon

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     • Cayhr
     @Cayhr @Kyonko802 @lapin @namedoesntfi it isnt "confirmation bias" it is outright deception
     Assuming ignorance instead of malice is a grave estimation
     Doesnt matter if someone hit you with a car out of negligence of malice you were still hit with a car
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   • Cayhr (cayhr@varishangout.net)'s status on Thursday, 12-Oct-2023 07:18:39 JST Cayhr

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     • namedoesntfi
     • VidMasterEon
     @Vidmastereon Fair enough, Nova3 has a dishonest approach entirely. I think the deceptive jump here is trying to equate a translated phrase of "outside the frame of men and women" to "non-binary", as indicated by Nova3's use of the abbreviation "nb". And yet, in the original script, "non-binary" is nowhere to be seen, as pointed out by Kyonko. This means the original writing and thus the intent by the original writers (aka the source material) don't acknowledge the concept of being "non-binary" at all.
     
     Even if a character like Enkidu exists, the base human binary still exists with all of the other servants. A magical outlier (in a fictional IP nonetheless) has not invalidated normal understanding of humans lol
     
     @Kyonko802 @lapin @namedoesntfi
   • salty_apollyon (rlier23@bae.st)'s status on Thursday, 12-Oct-2023 08:02:51 JST salty_apollyon

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     • Kyonko802
     @lapin @Kyonko802 i fucking hate fags of all stripes
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   • VidMasterEon (vidmastereon@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 13-Oct-2023 02:56:45 JST VidMasterEon

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     • Cayhr
     @namedoesntfi @Cayhr @Kyonko802 @lapin Schrodinger's woke
     "Everything you like and have liked is already woke but also problematic and outdated depending on the situation"
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