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1. 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 02:13:56 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

   • FLEAR (Free & Libre Engineers for Amateur Radio)

   So I managed to add #ActivityPub to a static website I just put together. I will be modifying it so I use the same code on my personal blog too.

   Basically it supports followers, and when a new page is added (like a news entry, or a new project) then if your following the website it will show as a status in your feed.

   Even cooler, if you comment or like the status from here you will see that comment and status on the website. Yes I can block people if they abuse this, as well as servers.

   Check it out by following @flear which represents https://flear.org

   Its a very early beta, so the look of the site will still be heavily modified and I will add some more #AP support soon. But this covers all the basics needs.

   #Fediverse #Mastodon
   QT: https://flear.org/activitypub-support-added/

   • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 02:13:50 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • Owl

     @lonelyowl @happyborg

     thats typical.

   • Owl (lonelyowl@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 02:13:51 JST Owl

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     @freemo @happyborg
     
     My vpn has a port forwarding feature, but it can't forward the default web server ports, 80 or 8080.
   • happyborg (happyborg@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 02:13:52 JST happyborg

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     @freemo

     > For ActivityPub it must, it is designed to. There are solutions if you want it totally in the client though, go for that if you want it

     That seems contradictory or do you mean non-AP solutions?

     Regardless, I'm curious if AP can be implemented using libp2p services. I'm not impressed with Nostr in several respects. I'm a big fan of Safe Network though and hope to see it link to synergistic projects.

     I built a PoC for SN to integrate with Solid and another, a GitHub in the browser.

   • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 02:13:52 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • happyborg

     @happyborg

     I mean that AP requires a server with a static address and available port, and must run 24/7 to be effective (otherwise I cant follow people will get errors).

     Since the vast majority of personal computers are behind a nat with a dynamic IP you can not host AP based instances off your local machine unless you pay for commercial features (static public ip)

   • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 02:13:53 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • happyborg

     @happyborg "serverless function" is the correct and adopted technical term. As far as I know it wasnt coined by google, but if it was, i dont see that really making a difference. It is the established standard term for such a thing.

     You can run it in a server configuration if you want, go for it. Some of us dont want that level of complexity, especially not for a static site that has no need for it.

     > I think a useful distinction is whether site specific code runs outside the client.

     For ActivityPub it must, it is designed to. There are solutions if you want it totally in the client though, go for that if you want it.. I intend to add Nostr support on top of AP so my site does both and so people can follow it using the standard of their choice.

   • happyborg (happyborg@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 02:13:54 JST happyborg

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     @freemo thanks, that's neat.

     With respect I think using the term serverless when there is a server because Google (I think) coined the term is misleading IMO though I know many go along with it.

     My interest is in p2p, so building static sites where code runs in the client & data mutated without a server, and stored across the p2p network. There are though people who insist that p2p nodes be called servers! 🤷♂️

     I think a useful distinction is whether site specific code runs outside the client.

   • happyborg (happyborg@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 02:13:55 JST happyborg

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     • FLEAR (Free & Libre Engineers for Amateur Radio)

     @freemo

     How do third parties manage to change content in a static site? If the site is immutable, what and where is the mutated data?

     Sounds very neat so 👏
     @flear

   • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 02:13:55 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • happyborg
     • FLEAR (Free & Libre Engineers for Amateur Radio)

     @happyborg

     Static sites actually have come a long way, to the point that the term is still super confusing.

     Yes the code itself is static html. and the code itself doesnt change between deploys. To answer your question it uses javascript (originally written as typescript). Some of it even runs remotely on the server, though its called "serverless functions" since the lambdas run without any OS or system info.

     So the javascript basically can modify the code on the fly (the local js) and act as endpoints for things like follows using serverless functions but still running "in the cloud" (you see those int he api folder).

     Next you might be wondering where the data is stored... It uses a firebase DB, so basically the DB is also in the cloud and is accessed with javascript as well... So the dynamic parts are rendered dynamically using static code written in javascript :)

     @flear

   • Health Is Wealth (healthiswealth@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 02:14:31 JST Health Is Wealth

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     • FLEAR (Free & Libre Engineers for Amateur Radio)

     @freemo @flear ha! I was so eager to test it I just replied! Have tested it now, works a treat! :)

   • Health Is Wealth (healthiswealth@fosstodon.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 02:14:32 JST Health Is Wealth

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     • FLEAR (Free & Libre Engineers for Amateur Radio)

     @freemo @flear let's test this comment out.. :)

   • 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱 (freemo@qoto.org)'s status on Saturday, 07-Oct-2023 02:14:32 JST 🎓 Doc Freemo :jpf: 🇳🇱

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     • Health Is Wealth
     • FLEAR (Free & Libre Engineers for Amateur Radio)

     @healthiswealth

     You have to comment on the post itself, this is just a quote toot of the post so comments here wont show up.. go over to the took I link, do it there.

     @flear

     Machismo repeated this.