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i think all cyberpunk stories written after ~1995 are just too cringe
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@Moon redditification ("this story will be cool if everybody makes up new slurs"), a general reduction to only the aesthetic with paper-thin societal critique or just "random stuff happens while gay and a computer". Here's a selection of titles:
- “Do Androids Dream of Capitalism and Slavery?”
- "fallenangel.dll"
- “Somatosensory Cortex Dog Mess You Up Big Time, You Sick Sack of S**T”
- “Patterns of a Murmuration, in Billions of Data Points”
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@lain what specifically is wrong with them
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@lain @Moon I would like a Somatosensory Cortex Dog
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@polarisera @Moon it would mess up up big time
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@lain @Moon star wars did this all the way back in the 70s, ya know
It's a long running sci Fi tradition to make up an in universe term that's derogatory, and drop it in context so that the reader infers it to be a dig, nerve herder
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@pwm @Moon i mean stuff "he's a fascist shitnugget"
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@lain currently reading "Fall or, Dodge in Hell" by Stephenson who's supposedly such a great Cyberpunk author and it's boring ass dogshit, reads like meinkraft fanfic. But the newer Gibsons aren't that great as well or so I've read.
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@lain @Moon okay well that sounds like laser-breath to me. Point taken
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@warmbeverageenjoyer @Moon i'm working through the 'big book of cyberpunk' at the moment, i'll post some recommendations once i'm through
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@lain @Moon this puts into words what i've felt every time i've tried to dive into the genre, which always has been with media created after 1995. What would you recommend? I saw someone recommend Johnny Mnemonic the other day but I read an excerpt and didn't enjoy it much
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@lain @Moon
"[...] will be cool if everybody makes up new slurs"
There's a lot of this from the politically correct crowd lately. Like inventing new slurs is progress. Then in a decade or two, they'll pretend it wasn't them, like they currently do about slurs they used a decade or two ago.
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@lain @Moon
more related to cyberpunk stories: I think the cyberpunk aesthetic is too good for its own good. As in it's able to be used as a crutch for paper-thin everything-else. As a result it attracts lazy content that would not be able to stand on it's own without cyberpunk tacked on, especially when it becomes trendy. Similar to zombie theme; there's good zombie-theme stuff, but so much bad stuff just leans on zombies to stand.
>redditification
This word needs to be used more often.
"[thing] is good, but it'd be better if [current year political issue or short-lived meme] was shoehorned in."
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@cereal i haven't read anything by stephenson that was actually good as a story, but i enjoyed the world in anathem
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@warmbeverageenjoyer @Moon actually here are a few quick recommendations. All the novels I've read really lead to nowhere but have interesting ideas and a cool world, Neuromancer and Snow Crash come to mind. For short stories:
- Blood Music (Greg Bear)
- Axiomatic and Learning to be Me (Greg Egan)
- comp.basilisk.faq (David Langford)
- The Girl Who Was Plugged In (Tiptree)
If you're just in the mood for really good scifi, I can recommend "The Book of the New Sun", which is the rare scifi book that actually reads like literature
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@lain well in this one the meatspace is "democrat cities are heaven but in between republitards have destroyed everything" which seems a bit on the nose and cyberspace is just godmode. Everyone is filthy rich so all their problems are just done away with money.
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@cereal trumpism ruined a decade of scifi at least
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@snacks actually haven't seen it
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@lain is stand alone complex cringe or not really cyberpunk?
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@lain @Moon nice, thank you!
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@snacks i find cyberpunk pretty hard to pin down as a genre, as long as it's not restricted to neon lights and cyberdecks
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@lain didn't expect that. It's actually post cyberpunk, but most settings seem to be somewhere between the two
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@lain @cereal I read too much Stephenson, despite not liking most of it. But The Diamond Age was actually interesting.
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@polarisera reposted your post
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