@djsumdog @coolboymew @lelouchebag @ooignignoktoo they've been fucking up sizing latey, tho... I had to send a pair of v-trek insulated back because they were painful to wear, even if it was ostensobly the same size as the old pair I had (no idea what model); then the insulated variant was no longer available so I got regular v-trek, but made sure to get one size larger - guess what, they're just about the right size (I wanted the insulated version because they're waterproof, unlike all other models - and when water gets in and wets the talcum powder inside, because it's impossible to wear them without it, you get an uncomfortable slippery mud....)