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1. Richard Stallman (rms@mastodon.xyz)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2023 21:08:54 JST Richard Stallman

   McCarthy allowed a stopgap funding resolution to be voted on; most Democrats and most Republicans voted for it: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/01/matt-gaetz-kevin-mccarthy-house-speaker-shutdown-deal The only harmful part was that it aids Putin (and global fascism) by denying funds for Ukraine's defense.

   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2023 21:12:41 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @rms How exactly is Putin the leader of "global fascism" :Thinker:
     
     > “The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.”
   • Richard Stallman (rms@mastodon.xyz)'s status on Friday, 06-Oct-2023 22:28:09 JST Richard Stallman

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     @thatguyoverthere I wrote that denying funds for Ukraine's defense aided Putin,
     and aided global fascism.

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   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 06-Oct-2023 22:33:54 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @rms yeah I get it. I just don't see how they are related. Like Russia isn't really in charge of much around the world. The governments, banks, and corporations that abuse us seem to be largely in support of funding Ukraine. I am not trying to give Russia credit for fighting fascism or anything, but it seems like at least the side of Ukraine is largely supported by the global power structures that seem most to most closely resemble fascism to me.
   • Richard Stallman (rms@mastodon.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 14:00:23 JST Richard Stallman

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     @thatguyoverthere wrote "@rms yeah I get it. I just don't see how they are related."

     As fascist movements advance, they give other fascist movements a boost. Fascist leaders generally support each other and teach each other tactics. For instance, Trump supported Putin and Bolsonaro, and they supported him. Modi too is supported by other fascist movements.

     Their disinformation campaigns benefit all of them.

   • Richard Stallman (rms@mastodon.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 14:00:50 JST Richard Stallman

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     @thatguyoverthere wrote "Russia isn't really in charge of much around the world."

     You are right about that, but that's not the same point I was talking about. Putin does not control Trump, and Trump does not control Putin, but they are allies for the time being.

   • Richard Stallman (rms@mastodon.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 14:01:27 JST Richard Stallman

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     @thatguyoverthere wrote "but it seems like at least the side of Ukraine is largely supported by the global power structures that seem most to most closely resemble fascism to me."

     Fascism means abolishing democracy and rule of law and replacing it with authoritarian government. In the US, Trump and his followers are the fascists. The corporate power structure is not fascist, it is plutocratist. I've posted a lot about plutocratism in stallman.org.

   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 21:52:10 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     > Fascism means abolishing democracy and rule of law and replacing it with authoritarian government
     
     I think it's interesting how many ways this word is used. I do not agree with the current dictionary definition which requires a dictator and nationalism. Fascism got it's name from a bundle of sticks with the idea that as individuals we are weak, but as a bundle we are strong. To me it more closely aligns with communism or socialism with or without nationalism (global communism is still fascism). What matters is the binding of power into a more or less centralized control network.
     
     It's interesting because it seems this word has been used by all sorts to describe those with ideas they don't agree with for a while. George Orwell wrote:
     
     > It will be seen that, as used, the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else.
     
     https://www.orwell.ru/library/articles/As_I_Please/english/efasc
   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 23:34:22 JST Moon

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     @rms @thatguyoverthere democrats tried to get electoral college electors to vote against trump when he won their states. they ignored his legitimate authority when he was president. they conspired to prevent his re-election by all means at their disposal (not talking about voting fraud). and now they are leveraging lawfare to try to prevent him from running again. you know this is all true but you won't consider this anti-democratic. trump is a shitty person and a shitty president but he didn't do a tenth of the undemocratic shit that is being done to shut him down, ironically, in the name of "saving democracy."
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   • Ethical Pedophile (blinkrape@posting.lolicon.rocks)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 23:51:49 JST Ethical Pedophile

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     Trump is all things to all people, all at once. he has basically ascended to godhood thanks to leftard political dogma
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   • rdr (rdr@5dollah.click)'s status on Sunday, 08-Oct-2023 23:51:50 JST rdr

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     @rms @thatguyoverthere Trump is a populist. Only retarded commies consider him a fascist. Would a fascist speed up the creation of your mRNA jab and brag about lowering black unemployment?
   • waltercool (waltercool@pl.slash.cl)'s status on Monday, 09-Oct-2023 00:37:04 JST waltercool

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     @rms @thatguyoverthere Richard, you usually have good points, but you are incorrectly using the term "Fascism" to describe "right-wing populism"
     
     Fascism is a collectivist, pro-union, socialist, totalitarian and nationalist movement by definition
     
     I don't see any those descriptions on Trump or Bolsonaro except nationalism. Not much used about Putin but the Nazbol leader, Edward Limonov, was opposition to Putin until death
     
     Just using the word "nazi or fascism" to anything "right-wing" it's a bad idea overall, like saying "communism" to anything "left-wing". And you know because you were used to be called communist for decades by media
     
     You may think this strategy would promote the center, but it doesn't. If people keep calling moderates or non-radical people as "communists" or "fascist", they will end normalizing the term and even sympathizing because you are causing a "us" vs "them" situation
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   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 09-Oct-2023 01:05:42 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     @lonelyranger @rdr @rms both parties support the PATRIOT act
   • lonely ranger (lonelyranger@shitposter.club)'s status on Monday, 09-Oct-2023 01:05:43 JST lonely ranger

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     @rdr @rms @thatguyoverthere blue party can be more representative of fascism in practices