@givenup @mrnpc @qwerty @Jim It's cruel in the most common sense way, to me, because you are taking another beings life for selfish reasons, simply to eat meat, because you find it tastes good. Maybe for health purposes - but lol, cmon. In general, people eat meat because it tastes good and they're used to it. They like their burgers and etc.

It's like, imagine aliens kept us as farm animals - (yes there's a book about that that I've yet to read), imagine you being born on an alien farm and having your life taken from you to be a person's 10 minute meal.

As opposed to living a long, at least 10 year long life. Filled with hanging out with family, maybe friends, eating grass, hangin around lookin at the sunset, adventuring.

But nah, 10 minute meal.

You know, when you just think about it in this silly simple way, it's absolutely cruel.

But I understand what you're saying, again its like at our point in the timeline, our generations, I agree with you. I'm thinking more in the future, perfect ideal society and world. There would be no meat eating lol. We will have lab created meat or something advanced along those lines.

Surely you agree, let's say you have real meat vs EXACTLY perfectly constructed created meat replacement - not real meat, but everything exactly the same - taste, nutrients, whatever. Surely, you know it's more right or ideal to not kill living beings anymore. It would be evil to do so in that case because it's absolutely 100% unnecessary.

That's all my point really. Future things.

Like, even just the idea of eating living things and seeing butchered animals. The red, the gore, like... in a way, ideally, people shouldn't have to deal with that in a perfect world. It's just not a nice aesthetic.