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1. Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 22:55:51 JST Kyonko802
   When did modders get so entitled? It's common sense that updates break mods. The game was also a mess at first but it's really funny that this faggot thinks HE ALONE is the reason it stuck around. I've heard of ego but holy shit
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   • Lover of the Rebellious Knight Mordred (mordredsimp@varishangout.net)'s status on Friday, 22-Sep-2023 23:09:24 JST Lover of the Rebellious Knight Mordred

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     @Kyonko802 A Good Artist would never speak like that
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   • xianc78@gameliberty.club's status on Saturday, 23-Sep-2023 00:49:27 JST xianc78

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     @Kyonko802 He was probably hoping to get hired by CDPR. Just like how Source/GoldSrc modders get hired by Valve.

   • lolipunk2069 (lolipunk3069@varishangout.net)'s status on Saturday, 23-Sep-2023 01:22:01 JST lolipunk2069

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     @Kyonko802 Someone who's into modding for clout or for ego, rather than for the love of the work.
     
     Modders would be right to be angry if the modding tools themselves weren't updated to accommodate the engine changes.
     
     But this, though, this is petty.
     
     And yes, while modders did help out somewhat with extending 2077's lifespan, it wasn't any 1 modder that did this. It was the contributions of many modders, if anything.
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   • Kyonko802 (kyonko802@varishangout.net)'s status on Saturday, 23-Sep-2023 01:31:23 JST Kyonko802

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     @RehnSturm256 it's a complete overhaul of the engine I don't know what he expected
   • :slap: (rehnsturm256@varishangout.net)'s status on Saturday, 23-Sep-2023 01:31:24 JST :slap:

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     @Kyonko802 with that said, I doubt Cyberpunk 2077 is doing it ‘maliciously’ like Bethesda, but I feel it importantly to mention it. But It’s fair to assume a full new dlc - especially if integrated in the base game - would change the uh framework, so that modder should have realized they’d have to update their stuff in 2077. Just common sense, really, they shouldn’t complain so much. :naruhodo:
   • :slap: (rehnsturm256@varishangout.net)'s status on Saturday, 23-Sep-2023 01:31:25 JST :slap:

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     @Kyonko802 wait, hold on, the “updates that break mods” thing is a Bethesda thing too, I’m actually going to bat for that guy in the image regarding that aspect of the comment. If you look into Skyrim modding, it is practically malicious what they do to free modders. It sounded a bit complicated to me, but basically Bethesda has been “updating” the game every other year or so in a way which wipes creators’ esp files for their mods, hurting console mods most. They can’t even update what you’ve downloaded from them as a result and they have to rebuild their entire mod which often won’t work on Bethesda’s new arbitrary framework that conveniently ensures Creation Club content is unaffected. I see it as a way to limit mod authors’ freedom of modding, another restriction to ensure people are incentivized toward paying for the CC mods; it hurts console modders most, which are also the main (theorized) target of the paid CC bullshit in the first place.