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@eris isn't valve private, pretty sure gaben would never sell
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@Moon @eris Pretty sure they can't purchase Nintendo because of some Japanese law
And Valve's actual valuation is probably insanely more than Activision-Blizzard, they practically own the PC market, and thanks to Steam not being hostile, will probably hold it for a long ass time
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@coldacid @coolboymew @eris its easy, just offer nintendo a shitload of money to buy all their IP
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@coolboymew @Moon @eris they have a Japanese subsidiary, pretty sure if they can't buy Nintendo directly they'd be able to do so indirectly. But they'd have to offer the sun and the moon to not be rejected so hard the entire MS board would feel obligated to slit their bellies
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@Moon @coldacid @eris Nintendo is basically making money hand over fist, practically everything they made on Switch is almost a million seller. They're currently the most lucrative player in the industry. Microsoft literally cannot muster enough money to purchase them
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@coolboymew @Moon @eris there's a perception that Nintendo is a wholly Japanese company but a lot of stuff happens at their offices in Redmond which is where Microsoft HQ is. Same with The Pokemon Company. Huge employer
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@olmitch @Moon @eris NoA doesn't do jackshit other than fuck up localizations and release a few small games once in a blue moon
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@olmitch @Moon @eris No but really, I think there was a recent sales leak from that one court document, I cannot find it on /v/ right now, but the software sales that Nintendo has on the Switch are legitimately insane
If you consider the Mario IP and Pokemon together, those two alone probably surpasses Microsoft's worth
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@coolboymew @Moon @eris the switch deserves to be a success it makes me happy. It is the last place where talented developers who can really optimize for hardware are valued
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@olmitch @Moon @eris found it, thanks Yandex
https://www.aroged.com/2023/08/03/nintendo-switch-and-3ds-sales-data-on-nintendos-first-and-third-party-ips/
Sorry for lack of formatting
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@birdulon @eris @Moon @coldacid The raw data like this is worthless. Activision-Blizzard was basically floundering and they were purchased at a premium. Nintendo is currently selling hand over fist, has the currently #1 console that they're probably still selling at a profit
https://www.aroged.com/2023/08/03/nintendo-switch-and-3ds-sales-data-on-nintendos-first-and-third-party-ips/
Keep in mind that Sony are now porting their AAA games to PC for a reason, so is MS. Meanwhile Nintendo still doesn't need to do that
They own some of the most valuable IPs in history in good numbers, which includes Pokemon, which is the most valuable IP in history
Even if Microsoft could technically purchase Nintendo, it would be a purchase that the company wouldn't really be able to recover from
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@coolboymew @eris @Moon @coldacid >Microsoft literally cannot muster enough money to purchase them
Just to be clear, you're not mixing up yen and dollars, right? Nintendo's market cap is a quarter of Microsoft's revenue. An acquisition with shares would involve like 2-3% of Microsoft's stock. Microsoft is a *massive* cloud services provider that is still making bank on legacy services, they aren't poor by any means.
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@birdulon @Moon @coldacid @eris I saw raw data like this is worthless, because as far as I'm aware Valve is low like that too despite having a nearly complete monopoly on PC gaming. They're worth waaaaay more than that
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@coolboymew @birdulon @Moon @eris to tack onto this, estimated future earnings over the period for which a purchasing company would need to pay off bonds, loans, and other sources of cash for the purchase comes into play. Even at Microsoft's size, there's still a lot of financial work that would need to be done ahead of any possible purchase of a company the size of Nintendo or Actizzard in order to be able to mae the purchase in the first place -- and then those you borrowed from want their money back with interest.
All of this is pretty irrelevant anyway since protectionist political concerns in Japan would torpedo any attempt at an American company buying a business like Nintendo. (Sega wasn't a concern because it was essentially a gaijin business anyway -- look into its history.)
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