@Oneeyeking I know about this discovery, but Roman roads weren't built with concrete and we do have self healing concrete and super durable concrete, we just don't build everything with them because we don't feel the cost is justified
@matrix I live in a pothole capital of the US where the roads are under construction, causing traffic 24/7 12 months per year. Cost justified? Also keep in mind that Roman Empire was 2 thousand years ago and their innovation was just rediscovered. People marvel our modern technology, completely unaware how much past societies achieved with so little.
@Oneeyeking The Romans didn't have thousands of 70 ton trucks every day drive over them and small roads fall into disrepair because they aren't a priority for maintenance. Our roads appear shit because we want too much of them. Yes, the Romans were very skilled civil engineers and were the best during their time, but they didn't have some mysterious secret sauce.
@opal@matrix It has nothing to do with cost. I'm convinced that they purposefully create traffic on public highways to redirect cars into tolls. Same thing applies with GPS. When there are two routs with same ETA, google always sends me on a Toll road instead of free. Lucrative construction contracts are distributed to political campaign donators.
@Oneeyeking@opal literally every country has a traffic problem regardless if they have toll roads or not You can also just tell your GPS to avoid toll roads
@matrix Again. You're missing the point. They build those roads 2 thousand years ago. Those roads are still here. Yes we have combustion engine and electricity to lift mountains. All of these inventions came around in the last century. ROMANS ACHIEVED GREATENESS 2 THOUSANDS YEARS AGO.
@Oneeyeking Yes, if I place a rock somewhere and then walk on it it's going to be still be there in 2 thousand years. Btw they're not there in the original state, they are withering away. Technical progress isn't linear, it plateaus, it jumps.
@matrix@opal Not every country has a traffic problem. It takes me an hour to drive 20 miles. Choosing to avoid toll roads? You're missing my point again. What are you smoking dude?
@Oneeyeking@opal Maybe the US has it worse because less people use public transport there, but yes, every country has problems with traffic. Yes, certainly there could be corruption in giving construction contracts but you don't need a huge conspiracy between the government, construction companies and gps makers. And if you want to say that quality of the roads isn't up to snuff due to corruption, then you need to demonstrate how the current corruption is unique, because corruption has always been there in institutions, even Roman ones
@Oneeyeking@matrix@opal not every place in the USA has a problem, I went my whole life and have almost never been stuck in traffic, and pretty much only when there was an accident or construction. cars just aren't that bad outside dense urban areas.
@Oneeyeking@opal@matrix just registering my experience for others reading the thread, tehre's an outside perception that the USA is uniformly car hell but it's big and diverse.