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1. † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 16:34:56 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:
   Let me make this very clear to you, if you are using VIM and think you are embodying a UNIX mentality you are massively mistaken, ED is that standard editor under the UNIX standard, vi is a GUI slopware program designed by University students to give them a cursor based experience, it is a proto-ide, if they had mouse support back then they would have added such, you are not minimalist for using Vi, anyway you are mostly not using Vi you are using Vim or NVim, both are bloated and especially NVim. The Unix idea is that every program should do one thing and do that extremely well, in this instance ed is the perfect text editor, it does that so perfectly that you do not need to do anything more, there is no silly scripting language built inside of it, which is the dependency hell of vim, no plugins it does the job of editing text and it is ultimately the purest and most prime text editor at it's job, for searches use g/re/p, is the origin of the UNIX command grep, as for not trivial text editing, reformatting for example you are best off writing a little text editing script like a real programmer and summoning it from the terminal which is easy in ed. !command, in VIM you have to switch modes which is confusing bloat. Please admit that your interest in the VIM "hjkl" motion is simply a hipster form of cursor control, it may feel hacker to simulate a mouse with a keyboard but you are still a cursor tard when the point is to play it like golf, script and automate all things that you can, when you are good at VIM you are basically using it like ed at that point anyway. As for Emacs, that's just an operating-system you cannot get less UNIX correct than that, and why deal with that when you have a powerful UNIX-style operating system to master, VIM gets you out of the terminal, it will stunt you, it will bring you into it as all monolithic programs there and then the Vim criticism of Emacs being such a thing falls apart when Vim is on that same spectrum. Use ed.
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 16:34:54 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     • Vad fan?
     @grumpy After using ed, im starting to think most of it is correct......
   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 16:34:55 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     • Vad fan?
     @grumpy No lol, i just found this copy pasta (also p uses it)
   • Vad fan? (grumpy@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 16:34:55 JST Vad fan?

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     @dcc Looks like a quote from BOFH or something 🙂

   • Vad fan? (grumpy@annihilation.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 16:34:56 JST Vad fan?

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     @dcc Do you use ed as your daily driver actually?

   • Vad fan? (grumpy@annihilation.social)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2023 18:05:49 JST Vad fan?

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     @dcc Really? I’m not sure if it’s really suitable for programming which is the main purpose of using an editor for me. But I’ll take a look.

   • † top dog :pedomustdie: (dcc@annihilation.social)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Oct-2023 18:05:49 JST † top dog :pedomustdie:

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     • Vad fan?
     @grumpy Yea