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1. LAUREN (noondlyt@mastodon.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 21:12:47 JST LAUREN

   • Eugen Rochko
   • Fedi.Tips 🎄
   • Sheryl 2 Crows (John, he/him)

   @LoganFive Paging @Gargron and @atomicpoet and @feditips for good measure. Community solutions are why this place is different and will work. We're not used to opening the tool box ourselves🙂

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 21:12:47 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

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     • Eugen Rochko
     • Sheryl 2 Crows (John, he/him)

     @noondlyt @LoganFive @Gargron @atomicpoet

     If you copy and paste the link into your search box, it will bring up the post within your server.

     The same goes for links to profile pages, paste them into the search box and they will appear within your own server so you can click follow etc.

     This copy-paste method also works with non-Mastodon servers which are on the Fediverse such as PeerTube, Pixelfed etc.

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Saturday, 16-Sep-2023 21:18:01 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

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     • Sheryl 2 Crows (John, he/him)

     @noondlyt @LoganFive

     There are also browser plugins that let you do this automatically:

     FediAct for Firefox
     https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/fediact/

     FediAct for Chrome
     https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/fediact/lmpcajpkjcclkjbliapfjfolocffednm

   • LAUREN (noondlyt@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 00:18:48 JST LAUREN

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     • Eugen Rochko
     • Fedi.Tips 🎄
     • Sheryl 2 Crows (John, he/him)

     @feditips @LoganFive @Gargron @atomicpoet This is what we are trying to overcome. Apparently Ivory (now with desktop) keeps you logged in no matter where you're clicking a link. I think eventually this will be a feature for all of the UIs.

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 00:18:48 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

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     • Sheryl 2 Crows (John, he/him)

     @noondlyt @LoganFive

     Would love to know how Ivory does that, does it work for all servers?

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 00:35:48 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

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     • Sheryl 2 Crows (John, he/him)
     • wet forest moon folklorist

     @seachanger @noondlyt @LoganFive

     Most apps open links within the app but in a browser window.

   • wet forest moon folklorist (seachanger@alaskan.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 00:35:49 JST wet forest moon folklorist

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     • Fedi.Tips 🎄
     • Sheryl 2 Crows (John, he/him)

     @feditips @noondlyt @LoganFive yep! honestly it works so well I forgot mastodon isn’t like this without ivory. but as I recall other apps are similar?

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 00:46:41 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

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     • Sheryl 2 Crows (John, he/him)
     • wet forest moon folklorist
     • Boris Mann

     @boris @seachanger @noondlyt @LoganFive

     Ice Cubes doesn't do this, Tusky doesn't do this, Toot! doesn't do this, Fedilab doesn't do this?

     Which ones do do this?

   • Boris Mann (boris@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 00:46:42 JST Boris Mann

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     • Fedi.Tips 🎄
     • Sheryl 2 Crows (John, he/him)
     • wet forest moon folklorist

     @feditips @seachanger @noondlyt @LoganFive most of the native mobile apps work like Ivory.

     The apps hold your login and it’s more a seamless system, no browser window it’s just integrated as data gets fetched and sent.

     This can’t easily be done in browser because of security between servers and the front end.

     An app is more like a “backend” Integration — it uses APIs directly.

   • Boris Mann (boris@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 00:58:13 JST Boris Mann

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     • Fedi.Tips 🎄
     • Sheryl 2 Crows (John, he/him)
     • wet forest moon folklorist

     @feditips @seachanger @noondlyt @LoganFive maybe I’m misunderstanding.

     I’m on Ice Cubes and I see an account boosted into my feed. I click on it and the profile loads in the app, no pop up.

     I can click follow / unfollow and there’s no pop up or browser window.

     My other profile as screenshot example.

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 00:58:13 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

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     • Sheryl 2 Crows (John, he/him)
     • wet forest moon folklorist
     • Boris Mann

     @boris @seachanger @noondlyt @LoganFive

     Ah, I think we're talking about different things?

     All the apps and the website let you click on an account and the profile will load without a popup.

     But if you click on a link to a post (for example https://mastodon.sdf.org/@obster/111057609548281707 ) this will normally open it in a browser window.

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 01:06:55 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

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     • Boris Mann

     @boris

     I've just tried on Ice Cubes, it loads both links in browser for me?

     🤔

   • Boris Mann (boris@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 01:06:56 JST Boris Mann

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     • Fedi.Tips 🎄

     @feditips in both Ivory and Ice Cube, it loads the first link in app.

     In Ivory, the second profile link loads in app, in Ice Cube it opens in browser.

     I think Ivory might be prefetching links to check for Fedi API responses and then loading via the API if it is a Fedi server (probably heavily Mastodon first fingerprinting).

     (Trimming folks)

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 01:28:17 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

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     • IceCubesApp
     • Boris Mann

     @boris @IceCubesApp

     Could you take a screenshot of what you can see when you click on this:

     https://mastodon.sdf.org/@obster/111057609548281707

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 01:32:05 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

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     • Boris Mann

     @boris

     Interesting... this DOES open it within the app for me on Toot... 🤔

     But not Ice Cubes.

   • Boris Mann (boris@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 01:32:06 JST Boris Mann

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     • Fedi.Tips 🎄

     @feditips just tried on Toot! and both links load in app.

     It has a little loading icon that shows when I click which is where I assume it’s checking the link type. I captured it in the screenshot.

     (o be clear — I’m experimenting here digging in, not discounting your experience! I hope this shared research is helpful)

   • Boris Mann (boris@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 01:32:09 JST Boris Mann

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     • Fedi.Tips 🎄

     @feditips tried with MetaText, both links open in app.

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 01:34:41 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

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     • Sheryl 2 Crows (John, he/him)
     • wet forest moon folklorist
     • Michael Gemar
     • Boris Mann

     @michaelgemar @boris @seachanger @noondlyt @LoganFive

     That's what I thought too, but can't find anything like that in Ice Cubes?

   • Michael Gemar (michaelgemar@mstdn.ca)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 01:34:43 JST Michael Gemar

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     • Fedi.Tips 🎄
     • Sheryl 2 Crows (John, he/him)
     • wet forest moon folklorist
     • Boris Mann

     @feditips @boris @seachanger @noondlyt @LoganFive Is this possibly a setting option, to display links either in app or to open a separate browser? I believe this is what Mona offers.

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 01:40:21 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

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     • IceCubesApp
     • Boris Mann

     @boris @IceCubesApp

     What's the version on your Ice Cubes? It should be visible on Settings > About

   • Boris Mann (boris@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 01:40:22 JST Boris Mann

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     • Fedi.Tips 🎄
     • IceCubesApp

     @feditips @IceCubesApp

     Of course! Let’s do all 4 I have.

     - IceCubes
     - Ivory
     - MetaText
     - Toot!

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 01:44:37 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

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     • IceCubesApp
     • Boris Mann

     @boris @IceCubesApp

     Yeah, I was on 1.7.6 and just now updated to 1.7.7 so I guess that makes no difference :/

     This is deeply weird.

     Either there's an Ice Cubes setting I'm missing or there's some kind of outside factor?

     (By the way, thanks for looking into this! 🙏 )

   • Boris Mann (boris@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 01:44:38 JST Boris Mann

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     • Fedi.Tips 🎄
     • IceCubesApp

     @feditips @IceCubesApp 1.7.6

     I just checked and there’s a 1.7.7 version waiting for me in the App Store.

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 01:48:16 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

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     • IceCubesApp
     • Boris Mann

     @boris @IceCubesApp

     Just went through every possible setting, cannot find anything that affects this.

   • Boris Mann (boris@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 01:50:40 JST Boris Mann

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     • Fedi.Tips 🎄
     • IceCubesApp

     @feditips @IceCubesApp yeah for sure happy to jam on this. We’re nerdsniping each other 😅

     I’m Ivory primary, but just bringing Ice Cubes into Home Screen as I poke at again.

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 01:51:39 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

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     • Boris Mann

     @boris

     Just out of interest, can you try clicking this:

     https://video.blender.org/videos/watch/ee623d80-fd8d-4a2a-8aae-1f5acf796f27

     It's a PeerTube video so it could be displayed within app by copy-paste but I'm guessing it will open in browser?

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 01:54:34 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

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     • IceCubesApp
     • Boris Mann

     @boris @IceCubesApp

     Hmm... it opens within app through Toot! but not through Ice Cubes, it can't be local network in my case?

     Unless Toot! is handling it differently to Ice Cubes somehow?

   • Boris Mann (boris@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 01:54:35 JST Boris Mann

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     • Fedi.Tips 🎄
     • IceCubesApp

     @feditips @IceCubesApp so, this could also be network settings.

     As far as I can tell, each app will hit a known fedi endpoint of the link (I think asking for the JSON version of the link, which will succeed if it is a Fedi server).

     I read something about this, could search IceCubes source code to see.

     Maybe you have OS or local network settings that is blocking those requests?

   • Boris Mann (boris@cosocial.ca)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 02:03:07 JST Boris Mann

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     • Fedi.Tips 🎄

     @feditips on Ivory, new browser window, AND copy paste search doesn’t work.

     I’ve found Mastodon mobile app to be most successful in copy paste search (search works with this link in Masto, also in Toot & MetaText, all do new browser window)

     So yes, this is a known thing that Mastodon fingerprinting is prioritized and easiest to do.

     Having this as a library package for re-use would be good, including adding other server types.

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 02:03:07 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

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     • Boris Mann

     @boris

     Geez... that's not good...

     Are you able to follow PeerTube accounts through their account address such as @blender ?

   • LAUREN (noondlyt@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 02:04:06 JST LAUREN

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     • Fedi.Tips 🎄
     • Sheryl 2 Crows (John, he/him)
     • wet forest moon folklorist
     • Boris Mann

     @feditips @boris @seachanger @LoganFive Are they all ios apps that do this??

   • Jonathan T (jonnyt@mastodon.me.uk)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 02:04:06 JST Jonathan T

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     • Fedi.Tips 🎄
     • Sheryl 2 Crows (John, he/him)
     • wet forest moon folklorist
     • Boris Mann

     @noondlyt @feditips @boris @seachanger @LoganFive All the iOS apps I have used open links in app as if they're just any other post in the app and bypass the dreadful UX of the Mastodon PWA. Whatever they're doing is something the PWA desperately needs to find a way to emulate because it is single-handedly one of the most user-hostile experiences I have ever experienced on a social media site, excluding moderation issues.

   • Fedi.Tips 🎄 (feditips@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 02:04:34 JST Fedi.Tips 🎄

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     • Jonathan T

     @JonnyT

     "All the iOS apps I have used open links in app as if they're just any other post in the app"

     That's not been my experience, unfortunately.

     I'm trying to look into why.

   • paramnesiac (paramnesiac@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 19:38:50 JST paramnesiac

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     • Fedi.Tips 🎄
     • Sheryl 2 Crows (John, he/him)
     • wet forest moon folklorist
     • Boris Mann

     @feditips @boris @seachanger @noondlyt @LoganFive Since I haven't seen it mentioned, both of those links open within Tusky for me. I only get the browser for non-Mastodon web links.

   • Paul Rohr (pevohr@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 19:38:50 JST Paul Rohr

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     • Fedi.Tips 🎄
     • Sheryl 2 Crows (John, he/him)
     • wet forest moon folklorist
     • Boris Mann
     • paramnesiac
     • Phanpy

     @paramnesiac @feditips @boris @seachanger @noondlyt @LoganFive Curiously, @phanpy opens the post in-app at its originating instance (presumably so you can see all replies), but underneath a warning that you won't be able to interact with anything there, plus a button to switch back to your home instance.

     No special processing for the profile link, though. It just winds up in the browser.

   • Paul Rohr (pevohr@hachyderm.io)'s status on Sunday, 17-Sep-2023 19:39:16 JST Paul Rohr

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     • Fedi.Tips 🎄
     • Pinafore
     • Elk
     • Sheryl 2 Crows (John, he/him)
     • wet forest moon folklorist
     • tooot📱
     • Boris Mann
     • Rodent App
     • paramnesiac
     • Pachli
     • trunks.social

     @paramnesiac @feditips @boris @seachanger @noondlyt @LoganFive As for other Android clients (both native + PWAs) ...

     Post + profile both open in-app (most useful):

     - Tusky
     - @pachli
     - @tooot

     Post opens in-app, profile in browser:

     - @trunksapp

     Both open in browser (hence no interactions):

     - @rodentapp
     - @elk
     - @pinafore
     - official Mastodon client