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1. chjara :hakasenyan: :verified: (chjara@snowdin.town)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 03:10:48 JST chjara :hakasenyan: :verified:
   >independent catholics
   that sounds like an oxymoron
   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 03:10:43 JST Moon

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     @chjara Sedevacantists believe that the keys to the church were lost and the last several popes are illegitimate so they don't believe there is any legitimate authority on Earth and that doctrine since that point isn't really doctrine.
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 03:10:43 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • Moon
     @Moon @chjara the "keys"?
   • chjara :hakasenyan: :verified: (chjara@snowdin.town)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 03:10:44 JST chjara :hakasenyan: :verified:

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     • Moon
     @Moon mostly tradcaths who claim to be roman catholics and fully in line with the doctrine but just close their eyes and refuse to acknowledge the existence of anything starting with vatican 2
   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 03:10:45 JST Moon

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     @chjara what does independent catholics mean though because yes the hierarchy is the only source of doctrine
   • chjara :hakasenyan: :verified: (chjara@snowdin.town)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 03:10:46 JST chjara :hakasenyan: :verified:

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     like isn't the point of catholicism that you have this big hierarchy with the pope at the top and stuff
   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 12-Jan-2023 03:11:51 JST Moon

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     • cool_boy_mew
     @coolboymew @chjara there are spiritual keys to the church
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