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cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 00:27:45 JST cjd

The whole purpose of the push to "globalization" back in the 90s was to create so much inter-connection between all of the countries that an all-out nuclear armageddon would be politically impossible.

Ian Bremmer knows this, he's feigning forgetfulness because it suits his political party.
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- cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 06:56:19 JST cjd
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  It's not even difficult, you just take everything Singapore does and copy it. Don't try to be smart, just copy.
  
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- Basades Kaiser (basadeskaiser@cawfee.club)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 06:56:20 JST Basades Kaiser
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  @Eiregoat @leyonhjelm @Java @cjd yes and you cpyñd make 95% of it disappear overnight if you wanted and had the power any modern state has.
  They don't solve the problem because they don't want to solve it, not because some law of nature stuff.
  
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- :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 06:56:21 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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  > government is a tool, what matters is who wields it.
  
  Some tools are inherently skewed towards particular purposes and outcomes.
  
  Giant centralised megastates tend to end up the same way: Hopelessly corrupt and the enemy of the nation they were created to serve.
  
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- Basades Kaiser (basadeskaiser@cawfee.club)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 06:56:21 JST Basades Kaiser
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  @Eiregoat @leyonhjelm @Java @cjd big government and centralization will always exist to some extent.
  I'd rather become the central power and the one party rule than allow the power vacuum to fill itself with God's knows what.
  
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- :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 06:56:21 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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  Lots of things will always exist to some extent. Rape and murder will always exist, burglery will always exist, corruption will always exist. Just because some sins will always be out there doesn't mean they have to be accepted or embraced rather than fought. Especially when there are alternatives.
  
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- Basades Kaiser (basadeskaiser@cawfee.club)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 06:56:22 JST Basades Kaiser
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  @leyonhjelm @Java @cjd government is a tool, what matters is who wields it.
  It's rather you or your enemy.
  I rather be in power than being ruled by the demons that won ww2.
  Conservatards always prefer to lose than winning because muh moral high ground. This is not star wars kid.
  
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- Basades Kaiser (basadeskaiser@cawfee.club)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 06:56:23 JST Basades Kaiser
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  @leyonhjelm @Java @cjd nazis were the good guys in ww2, what do you mean they are bad?
  
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- Leyonhjelm (leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 06:56:23 JST Leyonhjelm
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  Every government is bad. I used a comparison term here.
  @Java @cjd
  
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- Leyonhjelm (leyonhjelm@breastmilk.club)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 06:56:24 JST Leyonhjelm
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  You’re thinking of communists. Nazis were less bad than the WEF
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- Rose (java@freeatlantis.com)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 06:56:25 JST Rose
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  @cjd True, and not only that, it was about Trade, not controlling and abusing the world like a bunch of Nazis.😡 It makes so mad, and they act like we should be happy about it. Grrrr!
  
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- LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 06:57:37 JST LS
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  @cjd @leyonhjelm @basadeskaiser @Java @Eiregoat this, just read up on lee kuan yew, sheikh al maktoum and whoever was responsible for getting things going in hongkong. you can make your country rich even if it's a swamp or desert.
  
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- :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 07:47:56 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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  I've given a lot of thought to prison too. The conclusion I came to is that it's evolved more through accident than design and it's completely disfunctional.
  
  Historically prisons were only ever used for people awaiting trial or politically sensitive persons who couldn't be killed or allowed freedom. The idea of using it as a means of punishment evolved from there, and the idea of reform was an afterthought.
  
  I'd abolish the concept of prison as punishment, it should only exist as a security measure. Punishment should come in the form of compensation, basically returning to a wergild type system. Judges should also impose security restrictions to protect the community, but it should be up to the convict to fund and organise them. Less a case of sending them to prison and more a case of telling them they have X days to find a prison willing to take them or they'll be exiled.
  
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- cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 07:47:57 JST cjd
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  Not exactly the same topic, but something that can and should be improved a LOT is prison. The Japanese are doing a fairly good job of it AFAICT, they run it like the army.
  
  I think you can do a lot better by "promoting" well behaved prisoners into positions where they have more autonomy - to the point of living a relatively normal virtuous life in an apartment which happens to be inside of a wall.
  
  The west has converged on pretty much the worst system possible - it's hell on the inside, but it doesn't make you a better person, it just makes you a better crook.
  
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- :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 07:47:58 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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  > Building great universities to raise up the best and brightest as patriotic public servants
  
  > Paying top public servants as well as corporations pay their executives
  
  Tbh that sounds like any 60s socialist worker's paradise. The result tends to be a class of highly accredited nomenklatura who look out for themselves and fuck everyone else.
  
  Same thing happening in the west with all the lefty degree mills. They're creating a whole class of people who's only opportunity for success comes from political loyalty.
  
  > Sneaky rich people are looking for ways to take advantage of your government all of the time.
  
  This right here is the key problem. Centralised governments are fundamentally highly vulnerable to takeover by merchant elites (mostly but not always kikes). It's been happening for millenia, no amount of "this time it'll be different" will change it.
  
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- cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 07:47:58 JST cjd
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  > lefty degree mills
  
  Like I said, it's not complicated but it is hard. Making a real university system is a lot harder than making a cargo cult of one.
  
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- cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 07:47:59 JST cjd
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  Yes, he seems to be doing a really good job. Of course there are things that we can't know if they were done well until later, e.g.
  * Building great universities to raise up the best and brightest as patriotic public servants
  * Paying top public servants as well as corporations pay their executives
  * Increasing freedom and reducing government bloat
  * Sustained commitment to thwarting organized crime and corruption
  
  These things are HARD, they're not complicated but they are hard. Sneaky rich people are looking for ways to take advantage of your government all of the time.
  
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- Basades Kaiser (basadeskaiser@cawfee.club)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 07:48:00 JST Basades Kaiser
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  @cjd @leyonhjelm @Java @Eiregoat Bukele is another example.
  
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- cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 07:49:13 JST cjd
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  I can concur with that idea, but from the logical direction of extending "school choice" to "prison choice".
  
  I suspect that if public money is not brought to bear in some way, then a lot of mentally ill people would just be thrown in a desert somewhere because while it's realistic to imagine someone building a prison for the unpaid labor of "good" prisoners, the insane ones are unlikely to find any takers.
  
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- LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 07:50:45 JST LS
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  @cjd @leyonhjelm @basadeskaiser @Java @Eiregoat i do think there would be 'charity prisons'. I don't think a prison sentence would be 'go to this box', it would be 'you can't stay here with us non-aggressive people, find a place that'll take you, and you'll have to pay for all the damages you caused'. so 'prisons' would rather be places that take known criminals and compete for them.
  
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- :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 07:57:08 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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  Right. And most importantly make them useful.
  
  The worst sin of modern prison systems is that they make so many convicts deliberately useless and idle, while punishing the innocent by requiring us to work for their upkeep.
  
  It's completely backwards from how it should be.
  
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- cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 07:58:19 JST cjd
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  Also "prison is not perfect but..." is like an Orwellian level of understatement. It's like saying "landmines aren't perfect but..." or "genocide isn't perfect but...".
  
  Prison as it exists in the west is horrifyingly dysfunctional - evidenced by recidivism rates. And not only that but the sum total of what goes on in there can only be considered a systematic human rights violation by any reasonable definition of "human rights".
  
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- cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 07:58:20 JST cjd
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  There was a time not so long ago when school choice was also an exotic idea. Teachers' unions are fighting it tooth-and-nail but they're losing.
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- dicey (dicey@seal.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 07:58:21 JST dicey
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  Prisons are not perfect but there would be no support from even a minimum of people for these exotic ideas
  
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- LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 08:07:00 JST LS
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  @cjd @leyonhjelm @basadeskaiser @Java @Eiregoat i think that would just be a de facto life sentence, either in a 'prison' where you work and have to give most of your earnings to your victims, or in a charity 'prison' run by the church or whoever where you maybe don't earn any money but they feed you anyway. In the end, if there's truly no way that you can ever pay back what you owe, generally people would be willing to cut the amount owed down to a realistic level or sell the debt to an agency, at least that's what happens in business if someone can't pay.
  
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- cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 08:07:01 JST cjd
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  One person can cause a lot of damage, if someone did a few million worth of arson I don't think anyone is going to take them because there's just no ROI on having a guy working for free, that you still have to house and feed...
  
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- cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 08:09:24 JST cjd
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  Another idea along a similar thread is a city where you cannot enter without insurance. So if you want to live there you need behavior insurance, if you commit a crime they bill your insurance company, and your insurance goes up. If you can't afford to pay your insurance anymore, you have to leave the city.
  
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- LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 08:10:36 JST LS
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  @cjd @leyonhjelm @basadeskaiser @Java @Eiregoat i think this is how a truly free society would work, you'd have to either deposit some money to get in or have an insurance that vouches for you. credit card companies would probably be a good candidate for that. just show your amex platinum at the border and you can get in.
  
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- cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 08:12:53 JST cjd
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  I think there's a lot that can be done with private cities - where the city is a corporation and the shareholders are the landowners.
  
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- LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 08:15:59 JST LS
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  @cjd @leyonhjelm @basadeskaiser @Java @Eiregoat absolutely, i hope city states will make a comeback big time.
  
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- LS (lain@lain.com)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 08:24:50 JST LS
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  @cjd @leyonhjelm @basadeskaiser @Java @Eiregoat i think passports are complete nonsense. a country will let me in with the right passport, but the hotel will only let me in if my mastercard doesn't decline, and that's what counts.
  
  mood piece: keynes on the happy age before normalized totalitarianism: "The inhabitant of London could order by telephone, sipping his morning tea in bed, the various products of the whole earth, in such quantity as he might see fit, and reasonably expect their early delivery upon his doorstep; he could at the same moment and by the same means adventure his wealth in the natural resources and new enterprises of any quarter of the world, and share, without exertion or even trouble, in their prospective fruits and advantages; or he could decide to couple the security of his fortunes with the good faith of the townspeople of any substantial municipality in any continent that fancy or information might recommend. He could secure forthwith, if he wished it, cheap and comfortable means of transit to any country or climate without passport or other formality, could despatch his servant to the neighboring office of a bank for such supply of the precious metals as might seem convenient, and could then proceed abroad to foreign quarters, without knowledge of their religion, language, or customs, bearing coined wealth upon his person, and would consider himself greatly aggrieved and much surprised at the least interference."
  
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- cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 08:24:51 JST cjd
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  Passports are theoretically something like that, though you can't really make a claim against the issuing country...
  
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- :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad: (eiregoat@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 08:24:52 JST :spinnenrad: Festivegoat :spinnenrad:
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  There's a precedent for that in shipping registries. Functionally that's how they work. Also the tribal law system in somalia works something like that.
  
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- cjd (cjd@pkteerium.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 08:25:44 JST cjd
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  The idea of a credit rating as personal insurance is an interesting one.
  
  It's unfortunate that all of these things are so wildly co-opted and broken that if you even mention the topic, people think immediately about the half-dozen banks that rule everything. But if insurance and credit could be done in a decentralized way then this would be a big deal.
  
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- Râu Cao ⚡ (raucao@kosmos.social)'s status on Sunday, 10-Sep-2023 19:01:51 JST Râu Cao ⚡
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  @lain @leyonhjelm @basadeskaiser @Java @Eiregoat @cjd Full quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1344195-what-an-extraordinary-episode-in-the-economic-progress-of-man
  Unfortunately, compulsory government education has all but eradicated our societies' memories of times before nation states and passports, and deeply engrained the status quo as some sort of normal, natural state of human existence, for which there is no alternative, lest we'd be immediately overrun by barbarians.
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