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1. The Daily Stormer Digest (dailystormerdigest@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2023 05:34:47 JST The Daily Stormer Digest
   Looks like Gab is under a DDOS attack. I can only get to the site in a Tor window, i.e. not with a standard VPN window, and once I get there, nothing loads.
   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2023 05:34:38 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     • ins0mniak
     @ins0mniak @11112011 @DailyStormerDigest @TrevorGoodchild
     
     > the question is how good at it are they?
     
     "Toss some money" is a really easy tactic.
     
     > In a battle between a theory of Gab being dumb yet capable grifters vs. a fed operation I think you could break that down to say a 65 to 35 ratio.
     
     These are not mutually exclusive, but if I had to pick just one of the two, I'd flip the ratio. Look at KiwiFarms.
   • ins0mniak (ins0mniak@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2023 05:34:39 JST ins0mniak

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     • Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb:
     @p @11112011 @DailyStormerDigest @TrevorGoodchild Oh for sure, I'm not dismissing anything really, just making a list of probabilities based on subjective experience.
     
     I have no doubt that the feds are doing all kinds of shenanigans, the question is how good at it are they?
     
     In a battle between a theory of Gab being dumb yet capable grifters vs. a fed operation I think you could break that down to say a 65 to 35 ratio.
     
     Two things can be true at once.
   • ins0mniak (ins0mniak@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2023 05:34:40 JST ins0mniak

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     • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
     • Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb:
     @TrevorGoodchild @p @DailyStormerDigest @11112011 I always err on a theory of stupidity over conspiracy.
     
     By that, I think his user base as a general rule is just dumb enough to keep forking money over to him man.
     
     That "big tech is after us so give me money" routine never fails with a sizable group of people.
   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2023 05:34:40 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     • DJ Solomon
     • Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb:
     • ins0mniak
     @ins0mniak @TrevorGoodchild @11112011 @DailyStormerDigest
     
     > I always err on a theory of stupidity over conspiracy.
     
     If you've got to make a decision based on the information, sure. But it's best to keep the probable things in mind and not to dismiss things that are improbable but still possible. I think it's probable, given that the feds have an incentive and no reason not to. They shield organizations from the local cops just to make it easier to do a RICO bust: why not prop Gab up to preserve the spectre of scary right-wing boomers rising up and grilling us all?
     rifleboomer--commando.jpg
   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2023 05:34:41 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     • ins0mniak
     @DailyStormerDigest @ins0mniak @11112011 Or they are being funded by the feds through a cutout. It's not *that* far-fetched: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/modern-art-was-cia-weapon-1578808.html .
     
     So the FBI spends all this time trumping up the threat of right-wing extremists, and this means their budget depends on that threat looking credible. You look at that graph, $750k, it's plausible the majority of it is fed money: if your budget is $100m or even $10m more when they bogeyman manages to scare people, then it's nothing to drop $500k on propping up one of the bogeyman's manifestations.
   • Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb: (trevorgoodchild@poa.st)'s status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2023 05:34:41 JST Trevor Goodchild:verified::pondering_orb:

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     • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
     • ins0mniak
     The best kind of opposition to have is the kind that you directly fund and monitor. :torbo: always seem to survive like a cockroach despite the fact that his platform is consistently broken and he never seems to come under lawfare rape. So weird!
   • ins0mniak (ins0mniak@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2023 05:34:42 JST ins0mniak

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     • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
     @11112011 @DailyStormerDigest @p Jfc man, lol
     
     490 investors = 750,000
     
     Who are these fucking morons bros?
   • The Daily Stormer Digest (dailystormerdigest@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2023 05:34:42 JST The Daily Stormer Digest

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     • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
     • ins0mniak
     @ins0mniak @11112011 @p
     
     I would posit those "investors" are as legit as the Gab follower count.
   • The Daily Stormer Digest (dailystormerdigest@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2023 05:34:43 JST The Daily Stormer Digest

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     • ins0mniak
     @11112011 @ins0mniak @p
     
     If you're asking the question straight up, the posts under the Network Shatter hashtag do a good job of how Torba has made Gab seem fare more viable than it actually is.
     
     Which would not be that big of a deal, except people invested money based on these numbers.
     
     https://gab.com/search/top?q=NetworkShatter
   • DJ Solomon (11112011@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2023 05:34:43 JST DJ Solomon

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     @DailyStormerDigest @ins0mniak @p well man torba not retard, ppl using it are as u can see this the 3 time he pulls it
     Screenshot 2023-09-06 at 18-46-31 Gab.png
   • ins0mniak (ins0mniak@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2023 05:34:44 JST ins0mniak

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     • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
     @DailyStormerDigest @p @11112011 He's done nothing but rip people off for years man, I saw him doing shit like that back in 2017.
     
     Except back then he was this Trumpy alt-right shitposter wannabe. When that backfired he mutated a few more times into the weird Christian creationist whatever he is now.
     
     The shooting wasn't his fault, he's going to be a target regardless being that his site is big enough.
   • DJ Solomon (11112011@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2023 05:34:44 JST DJ Solomon

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     • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
     • ins0mniak
     @ins0mniak @DailyStormerDigest @p wait torba ripps ppl of?
   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2023 05:34:45 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     • ins0mniak
     @DailyStormerDigest @11112011 @ins0mniak I'm paranoid that some ISP is going to use Gab as an excuse to set another bad precedent, or some group of shouty activists is going to force the ISP's hand, and that at some point, whatever bad thing has happened will affect the rest of the net.
   • The Daily Stormer Digest (dailystormerdigest@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2023 05:34:45 JST The Daily Stormer Digest

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     • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:
     • ins0mniak
     @p @11112011 @ins0mniak
     
     Valid fear.
     
     To be fair to Torba, stuff like a shooter posting his manifesto to Gab right before doing the thing wasn't his fault.
     
     Lying to his userbase, running bots to make his site seem more active than it is, and deliberately destroying engagement by putting in moderated Groups, that all is his fault.
   • pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist: (p@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2023 05:34:46 JST pistolero :thispersondoesnotexist:

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     @DailyStormerDigest I think it's between there and some backbone ISP; traceroute stops short from residential but I tried it from a few servers (three US, one Eastern Europe) and traceroute works fine, front page can be fetched, ping times are better than expected.
     
     Something to do with their net. Shouldn't be a peering agreement because they're behind Cloudflare, and almost certainly not a DDoS. Maybe a Cloudflare misconfiguration on their end, maybe something going on with residential ISPs or an upstream.
     
     (I think it's obligatory to point out that nothing of value was lost because Gab, but if something legit evil is going on with the net, that's of interest to everyone.)
   • The Daily Stormer Digest (dailystormerdigest@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2023 05:34:46 JST The Daily Stormer Digest

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     • DJ Solomon
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     • ins0mniak
     @p Switched VPNs and it's working now. Reports are other people's VPNs have been blocked as well. Indeed appears to be some sort of Cloudflare issue.
     
     I appreciate everyone weighing in on this. *salutes*
     
     @11112011 @ins0mniak
   • laurel (laurel@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Thursday, 07-Sep-2023 05:36:21 JST laurel

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     • ins0mniak
     @p @ins0mniak @11112011 @DailyStormerDigest @TrevorGoodchild
     
     How elaborate were the dictionary attacks?
     
     Tools for port scanning to detect vulnerable servers have gotten quite good this past decade. Don't remember how it's called but there is a tool that allows you to scan one port on every single ipv4 address in the world in 15 minutes or so, provided you had the bandwidth to do it that is.
     It could be explained by normal ebb and flow of low level hacking tutorials.