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@WALFTEAM @coolboymew oh it has the classic PC98 aesthetic at least
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@Pawlicker @WALFTEAM you posted that last post did you
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@coolboymew @WALFTEAM yeah I am 100% shocked it was not mentioned in the /vr/ thread (a lot of retrogamers just ignore computer gaming or only know about the European ones)
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@Pawlicker @WALFTEAM unfortunately PC gaming was not quite affordable for a lot of people, and the Euro PCs weren't popular in America
I am definitively one of those who finally got a PC during the local government push of 2000 which included a big discount on your first PC and free dial-up Internet for months
All the other "PCs" I had before then were shit we were given for free (A DOS level computer, then Win 3.1 lol)
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@coolboymew @WALFTEAM That's one of the interesting things about Japanese computer gaming, developers essentially assumed everyone was going to have the shittiest model that was common at the time. So into 1996-7 there were visual novels being written that could run on a V30 (8086) powered PC-98 and to add to that, it wasn't uncommon for VNs and the like to end up having CDs with an FM Towns and/or a DOS/V (normal PC) port on the CD so that they could run on the widest array of computers.
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@lina @WALFTEAM @coolboymew In the USA there was the stereotype that you had to have an expensive PC to run video games, but more importantly many people were too stupid to upgrade a GPU in 2003.
I know my parents were.
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@coolboymew @Pawlicker @WALFTEAM >pc gaming was not affordable for a lot of people
>meanwhile in russia most people experienced gaming via pc gaming
does this mean russians are ultimately richer than americans and otehr westoids?
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@Pawlicker @lina @WALFTEAM I was talking mostly about pre-2000 (around 2000s I guess), so pre-push. I don't remember seeing too many family members having PCs around then
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@coolboymew @lina @WALFTEAM In the USA at least the PC stuff exploded in the mid 90s with two things: Windows 95 and the price war that happened with the Packard Bells and eMachines of the world slashing costs hard. Windows 95 in particular scared the shit out of Apple because Microsoft finally figured out Apple's gimmicks (namely APIs over bare metal programming and the ease of use).
That's why you see all the nostalgia and fake nostalgia for the Windows 9x era.
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@coolboymew @WALFTEAM @lina I say that too because the oldest computers my family had were Packard Bells (and nothing before that), in particular the well known "Frog Design" Packard Bell computers, and in the mid 2000s you could find these easily being tossed out.
And then they went downhill with quality scandals, price wars, but most notably a different computer company on a serious decline (NEC) buying them to try to get some international relevance after their monopoly at home was crumbling hard, which failed.
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@Pawlicker @WALFTEAM @coolboymew the only sincere nostalgia for windows is towards windows xp and 7
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@lina @Pawlicker @WALFTEAM @coolboymew
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@menherahair @lina @WALFTEAM @coolboymew ah yes a fmt
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