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1. Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Sep-2023 23:05:10 JST Eugen Rochko

   The fragmentation among friends that follows Twitter’s collapse is exactly the kind of problem that Mastodon and the social web solves for. Imagine that you don’t have to pick and choose which new platform to adopt, or make and maintain a million accounts—because you can follow anyone regardless of which platform they’re on. That’s our reality.

   • Machismo repeated this.
   • Moon :akibafied_pink: (moon@akiba.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Sep-2023 23:12:12 JST Moon :akibafied_pink:

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     @Gargron did you ever hear of fediblock?

     Ardainian Hebrew Israelite and Token like this.
   • Scott1984FP (scott1984fp@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Sep-2023 23:13:12 JST Scott1984FP

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     @Gargron ,

   • Ronald august🦊 (ronsto@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Sep-2023 23:22:11 JST Ronald august🦊

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     @GargronThe tendencies on twitter are more accurate because they are differentiated by location and not by servers 🙃#mastodon

   • YurkshireLad (yurkshirelad@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Sep-2023 23:25:40 JST YurkshireLad

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     @Gargron does #mastodon stick to the #ActivityPub specs or does it extend them?

   • Eugen Rochko (gargron@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Sep-2023 23:33:27 JST Eugen Rochko

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     • YurkshireLad

     @YurkshireLad Yes

   • YurkshireLad (yurkshirelad@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Sep-2023 23:34:13 JST YurkshireLad

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     @Gargron yes it sticks to the specs or yes it extends them? I’m confused. 😁

   • 知耻而未勇 (shqm2@mastodon.social)'s status on Sunday, 03-Sep-2023 23:58:51 JST 知耻而未勇

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     @Gargron 对，万变不离其宗，至少一个账户，即可适应不同平台和需求。
     但对于有隐藏自身身份的需求，尤其是极权国家中，仍应该“花开两朵，各表一枝”，以确保不因表达观点而遭受暴政与暴民的惩罚。

   • Christopher (crito@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 04-Sep-2023 00:03:14 JST Christopher

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     @Gargron
     On both Twitter and Counter.Social I saw interesting posts from people, and felt a sense of engagement with and by other users. (Twitter has turned to utter garbage, and Counter.Social is intolerant/ban happy - banning anyone who wants to share ideas that are discomforting to the group)

     Here, I feel like I'm in a void, like I've been placed in a quarantine and muted. This is such a lonely/empty/dead feeling space - maybe if you're a celebrity or something, it doesn't feel that way?

   • SJ (sjeffries@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 04-Sep-2023 00:06:39 JST SJ

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     @Gargron I can’t even browse the Followers of interesting accounts if they’re on different servers! :(

   • Moussa Mazouzi (mazouzi@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 04-Sep-2023 02:52:29 JST Moussa Mazouzi

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     @Gargron How does Mastodon balance the need for decentralization with the need for moderation?

   • bot :kiwi_dumbbell: (bot@seal.cafe)'s status on Monday, 04-Sep-2023 03:46:48 JST bot :kiwi_dumbbell:

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     • Moon :akibafied_pink:
     True, this guy is a total retard lol.
     Token likes this.
   • Bihazards 🌹✊🏽 (bihazards@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 04-Sep-2023 04:33:28 JST Bihazards 🌹✊🏽

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     @Gargron eh, I disagree. I think we will always devolve to this problem and that's okay. We have to be willing not to be centralized around a single platform or a single standard, and ready to move as soon as the time comes. I think the age of tech that "just works" has made us a little too comfortable with relying on inherently unreliable systems.

   • eev kuchenka (mochiron@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 04-Sep-2023 05:14:20 JST eev kuchenka

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     @Gargron A better point of reference to me personally is how 15 years ago, even though not all of my friends were on the same IM platforms I could just use a multiprotocol messenger like Trillian to keep tabs on all of them instead of having to install 30 different clients.

   • Kathy E. Gill 🇺🇦 (kegill@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 04-Sep-2023 05:42:11 JST Kathy E. Gill 🇺🇦

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     @Gargron
     I once described Twitter to my parents as public telegrams.

     Mastodon is trying to create “social media” protocols like those underpinning phone calls, email and texts. Not just “read” but “respond.”

     Today no corporations are pushing for interoperability due to paying for multiple email providers (eg, MCI mail, Compuserve, Prodigy) so employees could email folks outside the company.

     Note: It would be 20+ years between SMTP (1981) and Gmail (2004).

   • re_chief (re_chief@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 04-Sep-2023 06:18:20 JST re_chief

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     @Gargron I’m grateful for what you’ve built, but with all due respect, it is famously difficult to discover and follow people on Mastodon servers that are different from your own. Articles have been written about this in the news. It is a deterrent to new adopters. I recognize that this is intentional in some ways but the Fediverse is far more fragmented than most other social networks

   • Wowwoweowza (wowwoweowza@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 04-Sep-2023 06:42:44 JST Wowwoweowza

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     @Gargron — I need the Mastodon Primer that might explain the entire Fediverse for a GenXer who wants to encourage the collapse of FB, X, Reddit etc. how does it all work? How can I set up a server to host some?

   • R_C_ (thematizer@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 04-Sep-2023 10:39:21 JST R_C_

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     @Gargron I'm glad you said "solves for" and not "solves."

   • Ambrosia (ambrosia@mastodon.social)'s status on Monday, 04-Sep-2023 20:17:11 JST Ambrosia

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     @Gargron "because you can follow anyone regardless of which platform they’re on. That’s our reality." if only that were reality (it's not)