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1. ✡️ ((fuggy)) :swastika: (fuggy@skippers-bin.com)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Aug-2023 02:40:50 JST ✡️ ((fuggy)) :swastika:

   Getting tired of new CPU bugs coming around every year, then making performance worse. They really opened paradox's box with Spectre and Meldown smh
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EY_9KtxyPg

   • ✡️ ((fuggy)) :swastika: (fuggy@skippers-bin.com)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Aug-2023 02:43:04 JST ✡️ ((fuggy)) :swastika:

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     I don't think they where as common before because people weren't looking for them as a attack vector as much. I understand they need to be pointed out, but at the same time it's kinda annoying at this point since it's not like software where it can be patched easily without hacks

   • ✡️ ((fuggy)) :swastika: (fuggy@skippers-bin.com)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Aug-2023 02:46:28 JST ✡️ ((fuggy)) :swastika:

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     Of course next generation it is usually dealt with, but buying new hardware isn't cheap. To make it worse this new hardware has performance regressions running without the patches sometimes, so disabling them might give you worse performance

   • ✡️ ((fuggy)) :swastika: (fuggy@skippers-bin.com)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Aug-2023 02:48:35 JST ✡️ ((fuggy)) :swastika:

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     I think their has been similar attacks with RISC CPUs, but I imagine it is much less common. RISC CPUs just have way less moving parts compared to CISC

   • ✡️ ((fuggy)) :swastika: (fuggy@skippers-bin.com)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Aug-2023 02:52:54 JST ✡️ ((fuggy)) :swastika:

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     • śmigoł 😼

     @smigol@rigcz.club Speculative execution has massive performance gains though

   • śmigoł 😼 (smigol@rigcz.club)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Aug-2023 02:52:55 JST śmigoł 😼

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     @fuggy CPU manufacturers want to release more and more powerful units without costly development of technology. So they use more and more hacky methods. There would be no Specter or Meltdown if there was no speculative execution.

   • ✡️ ((fuggy)) :swastika: (fuggy@skippers-bin.com)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Aug-2023 03:01:26 JST ✡️ ((fuggy)) :swastika:

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     • śmigoł 😼

     @smigol@rigcz.club Still likely worth it, but annoying

   • śmigoł 😼 (smigol@rigcz.club)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Aug-2023 03:01:27 JST śmigoł 😼

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     @fuggy this is why processor manufacturers use it. But when software mitigations are applied, performance drops.

   • ✡️ ((fuggy)) :swastika: (fuggy@skippers-bin.com)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Aug-2023 03:25:45 JST ✡️ ((fuggy)) :swastika:

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     • ligma

     @ZasedAndQedpilled@bae.st Yeah, seems that way. Tither make elaborate hardware optimization, or make them bigger hotter and more expensive, or what I would prefer is actually optimizing our already existing code because it's ass

   • ligma (zasedandqedpilled@bae.st)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Aug-2023 03:25:46 JST ligma

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     @fuggy I'm no hardware expert but seems like companies have been running up against the wall in terms of meaningful tech advancement so they need to make more elaborate optimized architecture's to increase performance, which inevitably leads to strange issues
   • ✡️ ((fuggy)) :swastika: (fuggy@skippers-bin.com)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Aug-2023 03:30:59 JST ✡️ ((fuggy)) :swastika:

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     • ligma

     @ZasedAndQedpilled@bae.st Or idk maybe throw AI at it, which would be rad if it wasn't a excuse not to optimize shit
     https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/nvidia-dlss-3-5-ray-reconstruction/

   • ✡️ ((fuggy)) :swastika: (fuggy@skippers-bin.com)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Aug-2023 03:32:47 JST ✡️ ((fuggy)) :swastika:

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     • ligma

     @ZasedAndQedpilled@bae.st But for real AMD needs something similar with their doo doo ass ray tracing support, I think this is what will make ray tracing more viable

   • ✡️ ((fuggy)) :swastika: (fuggy@skippers-bin.com)'s status on Wednesday, 30-Aug-2023 03:33:09 JST ✡️ ((fuggy)) :swastika:

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     • ligma

     @ZasedAndQedpilled@bae.st Runs faster and looks better