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1. Charles U. Farley (freakazoid@retro.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:20:46 JST Charles U. Farley

   Seems like all new instances should at least be silenced by default until they prove themselves to be good Fedizens. Yes, it will make it harder to bootstrap new instances. The admin can always go out and specifically request to be unsilenced. If they're known good actors, they will be successful. If they are not, then they should not be successful.

   #Mastodon #FediMeta

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   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:20:45 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     @freakazoid Nobody cares, you pussy faggot. If you Canceldon fags want to shutter yourself off, then be my guest.
   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:23:58 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     • Kevin Karhan :verified:
     @kkarhan @freakazoid Blocklisting has never once destroyed a domain. Free Fedi instances get along just fine unless they implode of their own accord.
   • Charles U. Farley (freakazoid@retro.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:23:59 JST Charles U. Farley

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     • Kevin Karhan :verified:

     @kkarhan I don't think having extremely low friction for creating and bootstrapping new instances makes any long-term difference to decentralization. To provide significant benefit, an instance has to be able to grow at least a little and stick around. If a little bit of additional pain at the beginning keeps someone from starting an instance, they were unlikely to make it in the long term anyway, and we're protecting their potential users and the Fediverse itself from the harm they would have caused.

   • Kevin Karhan :verified: (kkarhan@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:23:59 JST Kevin Karhan :verified:

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     @freakazoid I don't think this will benefit the users but only act as an easy to jump-over fence for #hategrooming orgs like #KiwiFarms...

     Having them burn through costly domains is a more effective deterrent, and #DenyListing / #Blocklisting is a proven strategy...

   • Kevin Karhan :verified: (kkarhan@mstdn.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:24:01 JST Kevin Karhan :verified:

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     @freakazoid personally, I'm against that since that would accelerate oligopolic instances and remove the added benefit of decentralization.

     What we could do - similar to eMail - is demand that #MAstodon sites have a proper #CodeOfConduct as well as #Contact field that allows anonymous reporting.

     Another thing that might get common are instance blocklists [similar to #Spamhaus' #DROP] to filter out nefarious instances...

     https://github.com/greyhat-academy/lists.d/blob/main/mastodon.domains.block.list.tsv

   • Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:25:17 JST Jeff Cliff

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     @freakazoid "You can only speak publicly if the king approves of what you say privately"
     
     ...and which king should have the choice to unsilence?
     
     >Yes, it will make it harder to bootstrap new instances.
     
     So you are de facto asking to make the fediverse less competitive with centralized, corporate, highly censored services like facebook, tiktok and birdsite
     
     How about "fuck no"
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   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite (ardainianright@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:25:20 JST Ardainian Hebrew Israelite

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     • Jeff Cliff
     @jeffcliff @freakazoid Imagine being too much of a faggot for Jeff Cliff.
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   • :sm64_d: :sm64_i: :sm64_e: :sm64_l: :sm64_a: :sm64_n: (dielan@shitposter.world)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:26:26 JST :sm64_d: :sm64_i: :sm64_e: :sm64_l: :sm64_a: :sm64_n:

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     @freakazoid this such an awful take just go back to Twitter or Tumblr or whatever fuckin hole you crawled out of god damn
   • Leyonhjelm :ek2_ribbon: (leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:26:26 JST Leyonhjelm :ek2_ribbon:

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     @dielan
     
     The funniest part is @freakazoid claims to be anti-authoritarian
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   • Leyonhjelm :ek2_ribbon: (leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:28:21 JST Leyonhjelm :ek2_ribbon:

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     • Christi Junior
     • Kevin Karhan :verified:
     @ChristiJunior
     
     They also don't understand that they're fascist but without the good parts of fascism
     
     @kkarhan @freakazoid
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   • Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:28:22 JST Christi Junior

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     • Kevin Karhan :verified:
     @kkarhan @freakazoid Kill yourself you piece of shit
   • Leyonhjelm :ek2_ribbon: (leyonhjelm@social.lovingexpressions.net)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:28:22 JST Leyonhjelm :ek2_ribbon:

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     • Christi Junior
     • Kevin Karhan :verified:
     @ChristiJunior
     
     Why do they think we care whether they federate with us?
     
     @kkarhan @freakazoid
   • Christi Junior (christijunior@detroitriotcity.com)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:28:22 JST Christi Junior

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     • Leyonhjelm :ek2_ribbon:
     • Kevin Karhan :verified:
     @Leyonhjelm @kkarhan @freakazoid They must consider themselves far smarter, more interesting and more insightful than they really are.
   • menhera chicken lady (phoenixwaifu@beefyboys.win)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:54:46 JST menhera chicken lady

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     • Johnny Peligro :nafo:
     • Jeff Cliff
     • The Problem
     @MischievousTomato @marine @freakazoid @jeffcliff weaponizing moderation lead to this. the crybullies got their way until it but them in the ass.
   • The Problem (marine@breastmilk.club)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:54:47 JST The Problem

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     • Jeff Cliff
     • menhera chicken lady

     @PhoenixWaifu @freakazoid @jeffcliff first off, hi phoenix and jeff. love y’all.

     secondly, this dude is an idiot and needs to go back to twitter if he needs his hand held that fucking bad.

   • Johnny Peligro :nafo: (mischievoustomato@beefyboys.win)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:54:47 JST Johnny Peligro :nafo:

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     • Jeff Cliff
     • menhera chicken lady
     • The Problem
     @marine @PhoenixWaifu @freakazoid @jeffcliff i fucking hate how people prefer to depend on a high authority to curate their online experience and all, rather than give that agency to their users. What do we get as a result? A society that gets increasingly more fragile and gay
   • menhera chicken lady (phoenixwaifu@beefyboys.win)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:54:48 JST menhera chicken lady

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     • Jeff Cliff
     @jeffcliff @freakazoid they ironically want to turn the fediverse into a twitter clone where they have all the control like they did before musk bought twitter.
   • The Problem (marine@breastmilk.club)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:55:11 JST The Problem

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     • Johnny Peligro :nafo:
     • Jeff Cliff
     • menhera chicken lady

     @PhoenixWaifu @MischievousTomato @freakazoid @jeffcliff yeah, i just started this and the only people i’m defederating outright are pedophiles. otherwise, we can discuss it as an instance if we think others need to get blocked (though ideally, if any more blocking happens, it’ll be single bad actors, not entire instances.)

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   • Charles U. Farley (freakazoid@retro.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:56:33 JST Charles U. Farley

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     From https://nightshift.social/users/Johnny5iveAlive :

     https://nightshift.social/objects/6705ff85-fd7b-4f5b-996a-9b917884b812

   • Heil_Honkler (heil_honkler@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:56:33 JST Heil_Honkler

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     @freakazoid
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   • Charles U. Farley (freakazoid@retro.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:56:34 JST Charles U. Farley

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     Some example responses to this post from other servers, all because someone on a server that associates with them (and which I am disappointed to discover retro.social did not already have blocked) replied to it.

   • Charles U. Farley (freakazoid@retro.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:56:36 JST Charles U. Farley

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     Starting to wonder if "silence by default" is enough.

   • Charles U. Farley (freakazoid@retro.social)'s status on Sunday, 08-Jan-2023 04:56:37 JST Charles U. Farley

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     The fact that it seems to be primarily people on known bad instances who have a problem with this tells me I must be on the right track.