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1. Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Aug-2023 05:01:32 JST Moon
   let's make a new network entirely based on yggdrasil and ipv6 and html and nntp
   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Aug-2023 05:01:31 JST 

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     • Victor
     @victor @Moon >What do I get by connecting to them?
     Access to my instance through y.ryona.agency, mostly. There's 83 more sites listed on sites.ygg ([21e:a51c:885b:7db0:166e:927:98cd:d186] if without ALFIS domains), the networks works well but feels even more desolate than I2P.
   • Victor (victor@crucible.world)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Aug-2023 05:01:32 JST Victor

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     @Moon I don't know anything about Yggdrasil. It looks like there is a list of public peers: https://publicpeers.neilalexander.dev/
     
     As it stands today, what are these peers for? What do I get by connecting to them? What software would I need?
   • Victor (victor@crucible.world)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Aug-2023 05:16:11 JST Victor

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     @mint @Moon Hmm, so that’s interesting…You have an IPv6 address listed for y.ryona.agency:

     21c:20f3:1eea:2ab3:a761:3589:fcd3:e481

     I see from the Yggdrasil FAQ that this is part of a deprecated IPv6 range (so is basically free for all).

     So I guess DNS requests still go through clearnet, but all traffic between hosts on Yggdrasil is encrypted? Is there any concept of onion routing, or is it solely a mesh network to build other stuff on top of while using the clearnet’s routing?

      likes this.
   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Aug-2023 05:25:34 JST 

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     • Victor
     @victor @Moon The traffic is end-to-end encrypted, but there's no onion routing, just a simple spanning tree (you can still build a Tor-like network over it, though, as well as connect to Yggdrasil through public peers in Tor).
     The IPv6 address is the public key, and for each address in 200::/8, a /64 subnet in 300::/8 is assigned (don't know what will happen during collission, but it haven't happened yet; the bigger the lower bits (2XX) are, the harder it is to bruteforce the address).
     There's no built-in DNS at all, so it'll go through whatever you set up separately. You can use both the regular ICANN domains, OpenNIC, Namecoin/Emercoin/etc, and there's been a few projects that provide Yggdrasil-specific DNS: Wyrd (crawls nodeinfo for DNS records, I think it stopped working due to breaking changes in routing in 0.4), meshname (also works with cjdns, provides onion/b32-like addresses) and ALFIS (small blockchain, not yggdrasil-speficic but .ygg domain is hardcoded to be restricted to 200::/8).
   • Moon (moon@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Aug-2023 05:38:20 JST Moon

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     • Victor
     @mint @victor do you know how/if ALFIS prevents namesquatting/spam?
   •  (mint@ryona.agency)'s status on Tuesday, 08-Aug-2023 05:38:20 JST 

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     • Victor
     @Moon @victor It's first come, first serve as usual. You mine both a key pair and a domain, and with each key pair you can only add one domain per day. There was also some mechanim for domain expiration and remining, but don't remember the specifics.
     There's an old introduction (https://github.com/Revertron/Alfis/blob/master/docs/about_ru.md#защита-от-сквоттеров-и-злоумышленников) but it's outdated as it explicitly mentions the lack of domain mining.