Luigi de Guzman
@youronlyone @o76923 @feditips the vibe I get from a lot of advocates then shifts to “well good riddance we don’t need them.”
The small size and insularity of this user base relative to the larger non-technical population makes that kind of hostility more likely.
Fedi.Tips 🎄
Could you give some specific examples?
I think this discussion would be clearer if we talked about specifics?
Luigi de Guzman
@youronlyone @o76923 @feditips so if the problem is “I have a hard time finding anything worth reading,” in a lot of cases the replies I get start sounding like “yeah and that’s a FEATURE.” I mean sure, maybe that keeps bad guys from taking over the network. But a poison pill isn’t much use if what you’re looking for is an apple to snack on.
Luigi de Guzman
@o76923 @youronlyone @feditips so, see here.
https://qoto.org/@volkris/110816915773094018
This is a helpful explanation about why my feed seems so dead, and I appreciate it. But to me it boils down to: your instance is too small, and your frustrations are by design!
That’s a benign message, but to a normie the takeaway is: you are being frustrated so the system is working as designed
Fedi.Tips 🎄
"the instance doesn’t search all of fediverse for it, but only searches through the limited number of posts that have happened to be shared to that one instance that you’re on."
...that's because of the decentralised structure.
If you want every post on every instance to be searchable from every other instance, you are calling for centralisation.
This isn't a "poison pill", it's just a consequence of decentralisation.
Fedi.Tips 🎄
The technical costs of every instance trying to index all other posts on all other instances would be huge. Only megacorporations would be able to afford to run an instance.
However, there are ways for smaller servers to mitigate this using relays, especially relays based on tags:
https://fedi.tips/using-relays-to-quickly-expand-a-servers-view-of-the-fediverse/
Fedi.Tips 🎄
No, you're not reading my response properly.
It is not a deliberate decision to restrict things. It's a downside of a system that has many upsides.
There are no good and bad options, there are only "least worst" choices.
"I am utterly indifferent to centralization or decentralization. If there is a better way to find things/people I can read, I’ll do that."
If you are utterly indifferent to the causes of your problems, you will never solve your problems.
Luigi de Guzman
@feditips @o76923 @youronlyone so once again: the system is Good because the user experience is Not Good.
I am utterly indifferent to centralization or decentralization. If there is a better way to find things/people I can read, I’ll do that.
Fedi.Tips 🎄
There are good, easy-to-understand reasons why decentralisation is good. These do not require technical knowledge to understand:
https://fedi.tips/why-is-the-fediverse-on-so-many-separate-servers/
Fedi.Tips 🎄
The upsides are very relevant to what you want to do, because they tell you whether the solution will be effective.
Global warming is very relevant to a farmer whose crop yields are threatened by climate change. A farmer can choose to ignore climate science, but such a choice will not help them solve their crop problems.
If your problems are caused by something, ignoring the cause will not change anything.
Luigi de Guzman
@youronlyone @o76923 @feditips the upsides are diffuse and not relevant to what I want to do. The downside is discrete.
White cat, black cat—what’s the difference, so long as it catches mice
Fedi.Tips 🎄
It's not about being "intrigued by a structure", it's about being appreciative of the effects of the structure.
I am not particularly interested in house building and construction codes for their own sake, but I appreciate the work of builders and legislators when my house is warm in winter and it doesn't fall down.
Luigi de Guzman
@o76923 @feditips @youronlyone a good idea and a good experience are not the same thing.
Again: nobody ever got started posting on a network because they were intrigued by its structure.
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