Americans complain about the US giving UK cluster munitions to be used only against RU soldiers, meanwhile RU pulls this shit almost daily. Cluster munitions used against civilians and their homes. Get fucked, idiots, you're living in a hollywood conspiracy film at this point. Get back to reality where Russia is, yet again, invading a sovereign nation under the pretext of a civil conflict they themselves PAID for & ARMED! Going back to 2012, it was THEIR proxy war against NATO!
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Zero Politics (zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Thursday, 03-Aug-2023 23:18:19 JST Zero Politics -
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 03-Aug-2023 23:37:29 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @zeropolitics so you are a "voluntaryist" and subscribe to the NAP, but you support printing money and giving it to war companies to buy munitions to send to Ukraine? -
Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 03-Aug-2023 23:44:01 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @zeropolitics it's not the printing that NAP might conflict with. It's the giving it to war companies and feeding a war that could be over if it didn't have the infinitely deep pockets of the federal reserve who are going to ask my kids and grand kids to repay this debt eventually with the threat of force. I don't care what it's being used for. I don't want to buy it. I don't want my family being on the hook for the debt for generations to come. I don't want to continue to push and escalate tensions to the point where we find ourselves slinging uranium at each other.
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Zero Politics (zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Thursday, 03-Aug-2023 23:44:02 JST Zero Politics @thatguyoverthere __ First of all the NAP isn't opposed to printing money. You can print money without violating the NAP. Secondly, what I'm oppose to is stealing money at the threat of violence. You're making illogical assumptions about what I believe. I just called out the hypocrisy of people who are against the US sending cluster munitions under orders they're used only agains RU soldiers, and yet don't care about Russia bombing silvans almost daily. It's a fucking joke.
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Zero Politics (zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Thursday, 03-Aug-2023 23:46:33 JST Zero Politics @thatguyoverthere __ You made the assumption that because I called out the hypocrisy that I was somehow advocating for 1) money printing, 2) sending the cluster munitions, and 3) paying "war companies." You're wrong on all three counts. You need to stop assuming things.
But I'm also a pragmatist, and if government is going to do anything it ought to help people whose lives and property are being illegally invaded.
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 03-Aug-2023 23:46:33 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @zeropolitics so you don't support the printing of money to give to war companies (cute quotes) but you do support sending the munitions to Ukraine? :Thinker: -
Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Thursday, 03-Aug-2023 23:53:46 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @zeropolitics :retarded_frog: when we print money, we have to pay it back. -
Zero Politics (zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Thursday, 03-Aug-2023 23:53:47 JST Zero Politics >> "it's not the printing that NAP might conflict with. It's the giving it to war companies"...
Yes, that exactly what I said. It's NOT the money printing that's in conflict with the NAP.
So, since you now agree with my reply how are you calling me illogical? You just repeated what I fucking said. It's the TAXATION that is a violation of the NAP. Not the money printing. Hell, I can print money in my back yard without violating the NAP. Money printing pre-exists government.
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Zero Politics (zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 00:03:42 JST Zero Politics You may have missed my previous reply. I already told you I'm opposed to taxation for any reason, including buying munitions to send to ukraine. I NEVER once said that I supported sending munitions to ukraine. You made that assumption merely because I called out the hypocrisy of people who complain about it while not giving two shits about Russia pouring out white phosphorus on civilians almost daily.
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 00:03:42 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @zeropolitics why does anyone need to care about something that has no impact on them. I mean I can say I care, but what good does that actually do? I'm not over there. I don't see what's happening. I could follow the mainstream media narrative as closely as you and have all these strong opinions, but what would that get me?
And while you say "I oppose taxation" your previous reply suggested you think printing is not somehow directly tied to it (regardless of whether or not you think munitions should be sent).
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 00:07:26 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @zeropolitics > Money printing pre-exists government
I must have missed this :laugh_derp:
People have created currencies for a long time, and there is no requirement for government to be in charge of that. However when the USA prints money it is actually borrowing money that didn't exist previously with interest, and it is expected that the citizenry will repay it. Before the divergence from the gold standard at least there was some kind of limit on how much we could devalue our currency. Now it's just a matter of how much debt we heap on our kids. -
Zero Politics (zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 00:09:35 JST Zero Politics @thatguyoverthere - You're failing to make a distinction between GOVERNMENT printing money, and banks, etc., printing money. No shit, if the GOVERNMENT prints money they violate the NAP to tax people to pay it back. But my point was that money printing in and of itself Is not a violation of the NAP because it's possible for private entities to print money that doesn't require taxation to pay back. Like banks, etc. So saying that Money printing in itself violates the NAP isn't true.
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 00:09:35 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @zeropolitics I never said that. I was specifically referring to the current topic of discussion (Sending Ukraine weapons/funding a forever war in eastern europe). My local bank is not sending those munitions. The federal government is. -
Zero Politics (zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 00:18:11 JST Zero Politics I'm an anarchist. HOWEVER, I would also add that I'm a pragmatist. We're not going to have a stateless society over-night. And as far as I'm concerned the LAST thing we should stop funding is our own defense, & the defense of innocent people. So, in principle I don't support taxation in general, including military spending and foreign military aid, but I'm also not an idiot enough to pretend letting RU and China take over the world is going to lead to a free world.
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 00:18:11 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @zeropolitics > innocent people
doesn't exist
There were people pointing out years ago that Russia was trying to dominate the energy market, and our response was to sell them our weapons grade Uranium. We chose to become dependent on China when we started sending all of our manufacturing over there. Neither one of them is currently sending ships to take over the homeland. Honestly there are far more important issues here that I wish we could focus on like gay frogs and killer bees. -
pyrate : sleigh captain (pyrate@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 00:45:22 JST pyrate : sleigh captain @thatguyoverthere @zeropolitics or never mind the constant and ongoing invasion of "economic refugees fleeing violence" Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: likes this. -
Zero Politics (zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 00:52:49 JST Zero Politics Okay, replace 'innocent people' with 'people who didn't attack Russia first.' You know what I meant.
As for the rest of your reply, I agree with your criticism of US policy 100%. As to the chemicals in the water, I totally agree. Killer bees I'm not that worried about, yet.
Turning a blind eye to Russia's plans for Europe via their Eurasian Union is very naive. Same with China. Isolationism isn't the answer...not yet anyway. I look forward to a stateless society though.
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 00:52:49 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @zeropolitics Is Europe not responsible for their own defense even a little? I don't understand how much US support is enough. For years most European nations did not fund NATO at agreed upon levels and we made up the difference. It's also pretty handy that we get involved in this just a few short years after getting out of Afghanistan.
Killer bees aren't where I am either, but where they are they tend to invade the hives of less aggressive bees and eventually they are the only ones left. It's just another example of good intentions gone to shit and we're left with the fucking bill.
There are plenty of other issues that are more pressing in the $current_year, but I do think that we could be facing declining bee populations which is going to have a big impact on how much food we can grow. In China they are finding it necessary to go out and pollinate their own crops. -
Zero Politics (zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 00:54:15 JST Zero Politics We're kind of getting in the weeds at this point. My point is technically correct, money printing itself is not a variation of the NAP, because not all money printing requires government, or taxation. That was my point.
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 00:54:15 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @zeropolitics I never suggested that printing money in and of itself was a violation, but when we take a loan from the fed it's a threat of violence. That was my point. It doesn't even matter what we spend the money on. It could be flowery bouquets and the fact that I am being forced to pay it back still makes it a threat of violence. -
Zero Politics (zeropolitics@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 00:55:43 JST Zero Politics You claim I didn't state my position. Haha. Here's my original post. I think it's really fucking clear. "Americans complain about US giving Ukraine cluster munitions, meanwhile Russia pulls this shit almost daily." I'm obviously criticizing those who complain about the cluster mutinous sent to Ukraine while not giving two shits about what Russia is doing to Ukraine.
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Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 04-Aug-2023 00:55:43 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: @zeropolitics it's still not clear 🤣
Are you saying we should or should not be sending weapons? I appreciate that you see hypocrisy in others. I'm just wondering what your actual position is and whether or not there is any hint of hypocrisy in it.
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