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1. David Revoy (davidrevoy@framapiaf.org)'s status on Thursday, 27-Jul-2023 23:35:34 JST David Revoy

   Fighting for the open web.

   #krita #MastoArt #ArtWithOpensource
   #Firefox #Privacy #Chrome #WebEnvironmentIntegrity

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   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 18:59:42 JST Aral Balkan

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     @davidrevoy Love your work, David. And it’s definitely not your fault that we live in the worst possible timeline but what’s missing in that image is the hand from Google giving Mozilla half a billion dollars.

     (Mozilla exists on roughly half a billion dollars from Google every year. Sadly, they’re not so much adversaries as partners.)

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:06:22 JST Aral Balkan

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     • Henkka Laukka

     @laukanhenkka Google is a publicly-traded corporation with a fiduciary duty to its shareholders.

     They cannot just give some organisation half a billion dollars unless they can make the case that they’re getting more than half a billion dollars of value back from their investment.

     Most visibly, Mozilla makes Google its default search engine on Firefox.

     More than that, Mozilla gets to exist thanks to Google. No half a billion a year from Google, no Mozilla, no Firefox.

     @davidrevoy

   • Henkka Laukka (laukanhenkka@mastodonsuomi.fi)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:06:23 JST Henkka Laukka

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     • Aral Balkan

     @aral What does this partnership entail? Is FF doing something beneficial for Google to get their money?

     @davidrevoy

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:43:16 JST Aral Balkan

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     @davidrevoy I hear you and empathise :)

     > if we all used Firefox with UblockOrigin, the toxic adv industry wouldn't be such a monster

     If we all used Firefox with UblockOrigin, Google would go bankrupt. When Google goes bankrupt, Mozilla would lose the half a billion dollars it needs from Google to survive so Mozilla would also go bankrupt. So the only way Mozilla and Firefox can continue to exist is if we don’t all use Firefox with UblockOrigin. That’s the gambit.

   • David Revoy (davidrevoy@framapiaf.org)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:43:17 JST David Revoy

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     • Aral Balkan

     @aral Thanks!

     Yes, I knew that. Thank you for writing this, it is useful information.

     It's hard to show all the subtle interactions and I had to sit on my own issues with Moz/Ff - e.g. all their failed non-sense side projects or recently their AI discourse to seduce investors.

     It's a limitation of my illustration that I kept it as simple as possible to be more efficient with the message: if we all used Firefox with UblockOrigin, the toxic adv industry wouldn't be such a monster.

   • Aral Balkan (aral@mastodon.ar.al)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:50:49 JST Aral Balkan

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     • immibis

     @immibis @davidrevoy And how many of those forks would be able to maintain their codebase if Mozilla went away tomorrow?

     I’d optimistically put the number at zero.

     But don’t worry, Google isn’t going anywhere so neither is Mozilla.

   • immibis (immibis@social.immibis.com)'s status on Friday, 28-Jul-2023 19:50:51 JST immibis

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     • Aral Balkan
     @aral @davidrevoy Mozilla doesn't need to survive for Firefox to survive and be useful. There are already many forks of Firefox by people who think Mozilla already shouldn't have survived.
   • David Revoy (davidrevoy@framapiaf.org)'s status on Sunday, 30-Jul-2023 04:25:59 JST David Revoy

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     Here is the painting process of the illustration I posted today. Painted and created with the built-in Krita recorder.

     Source file and high resolution wallpaper:: https://www.peppercarrot.com/en/viewer/misc__2023-07-27_Fighting-For-The-Open-Web_by-David-Revoy.html (3840x2047px, license: CC-BY 4.0)

     #Mastoart #ArtWithOpensource #krita #video #process

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