@William_The_Dragonborn @ForbiddenDreamer I bust this one out all the time:
“What’s in it for me?
and demand something material.
Good job? Not guaranteed. Good wife? Far from guaranteed. Good life? A fantasy in Theologia Americana.
Then I point out the messaging that the women & browns get:
Show up, and get what you deserve
Not super successful, but you lay the seed and water it. Ask “hey, if I were a hard worker living in my car right now, how would I climb out of that hole?”
No one will take a chance on that guy like they used to.