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@hazlin @Pyrrho @mmmfeet @shedinja
> is to keep everyone fighting their neighbor instead of over throwing the corrupt government.
There were some remarks made by the aristocrats in the South to this effect.
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@JonnyFever @Pyrrho @hazlin @mmmfeet @shedinja Jonny, I write walls of bullshit all the time and I have a ridiculous dong that terrifies everything in its path.
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@p @Pyrrho @hazlin @mmmfeet @shedinja
I’ve seen Asian women destroy these things
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@p @hazlin @mmmfeet @shedinja
I decided to read his take as less extreme than it is, but both sides do want to keep people fighting over semi-pointless social issues.
Now of course no matter how much bickering there is, there is still alot of gridlock on real important policy issues, too.
But that is just internal stuff, the external actors make it way more complicated, and honestly, their stances are often just what they think will harm their enemy the most.
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@Pyrrho @p @hazlin @mmmfeet @shedinja
No man would write a wall of bullshit like this
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@Pyrrho @hazlin @mmmfeet @shedinja
> Now of course no matter how much bickering there is, there is still alot of gridlock on real important policy issues, too.
There's gridlock on basic issues of fact nowadays. It's hopeless and I blame the San Francisco Data Cartel and I think a reasonable return to the society that existed before boomers were allowed to vote may be impossible but is definitely impossible as long as the San Francisco Data Cartel exists.
> their stances are often just what they think will harm their enemy the most.
Accurate.
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@p @hazlin @mmmfeet @shedinja
It's funny some people think Communism is anti-racist at its core just because the USSR thought America was on the verge of a race war so they tried to get blacks to revolt.
Sure, in theory class struggle is similar to race struggle... But classical liberal ideas of personal liberty did not stop us from enslaving people, now did it.
And it goes without mentioning you can just insert the word Jew into any Communist speech and it almost turns Fascist.
Although this is all messy overgeneralization and not 100% true, but it is true enough to be funny to me.
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@Ducking @Pyrrho @hazlin @mmmfeet @shedinja
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@p @Ducking @Pyrrho @hazlin @mmmfeet @shedinja
Boldmug's latest frames it not as a necessarily better system, but at least a system where responsibility and accountability are on the same individual. (See: The old sheriff.)
I was reading back the thread, and saw that post, and thought, "I'd probably be playing my cards the same way, because I'm not king now, and I still wouldn't be then. So what difference does it make?"
Even if those things overlapped, I think we're back at "wave a magic wand" the unexplained step between where we are, and the solution state, and I'm entirely unconvinced by his argument that we're "a more civilized creature, beyond violence" now -- I just think he's not cut out for fighting, unfortunately, it's not optional.
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@p @hazlin @Pyrrho @mmmfeet @shedinja I think this is wrong
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@p @Pyrrho @mmmfeet @shedinja Say P, what do you think about the idea of returning to Monarchies?
I have flip-flopped on the idea a few times. But, the only real difference I can see between a Monarchy and this illusion of democracy we now have, is that a Monarchy probably wouldn't have a thin layer of fall-guys (who get replaced every other election cycle).
Although, there is still some burden for those in power to make their decisions seem populaces... I'm just not sure that out weighs being able to hang the fallout of said actions around the neck of a more permanent leader.
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@hazlin @Pyrrho @mmmfeet @shedinja
> Say P, what do you think about the idea of returning to Monarchies?
Not a fan. I don't think the nation-state as currently conceived is a good plan. They've gotten massive and intrusive: I'd like a king even less.
The thing people talking about monarchy don't seem to account for is that a thousand years ago, there were zero countries with as much land mass or population as the big countries are now.
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@Pyrrho @hazlin @mmmfeet @shedinja
> It's funny some people think Communism is anti-racist at its core just because the USSR thought America was on the verge of a race war so they tried to get blacks to revolt.
I'm not sure that's the reason, but it tends to appeal to most of them; they
> And it goes without mentioning you can just insert the word Jew into any Communist speech and it almost turns Fascist.
It turns really confusing if you insert it into Marx's essay about Jews.
I don't see a meaningful distinction between most of the Trotsky that I have read and any other totalitarian screed for remaking the earth. I don't know where the meme started, but in Mussolini's last interview, he insists that the USSR isn't real socialism, so it dates at least as far back as that. Every socialist claims to have the key to the mythical real socialism and an insistence that everyone else has been doing it wrong, and I'm not sure that there is a meaningful distinction between socialism and faith-healers except that faith-healers don't tend to produce obscurantist word-salad.
> Chomsky
Sometimes he manages to come out of his own asshole and stay there long enough to tell a joke. It's nice when he does that. I wish he'd stay out here with the rest of us.
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@mia @Ducking @Pyrrho @hazlin @mmmfeet @shedinja I hadn't read that, but I do think any system degenerates along the fault-lines where authority and responsibility don't overlap. I don't think monarchy's the ideal way to solve the accountability issue, but it is interesting to consider.
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