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1. mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 23:07:57 JST mangeurdenuage
   *still uses a chrome based browser* :akkolul: joke aside he's right :gnujihad:
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   • Antarctic Chique (pingviini@pleroma.shunderdo.me)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 23:07:57 JST Antarctic Chique

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     @mangeurdenuage The real answer is to leave the normienet to the normies and have a net outside of that that runs on different rules, a different economic basis, significantly different content and diverging technology.
     
     I also remember the web from 20 years ago. There was no normienet of course, instead there was the normiebox (Television), back then still a separate thing that ran on separate infrastructure. The normiebox economy was also dominated by ad-business. It also sucked ass and became worse every year.
     
     I watched TV for maybe 2 hours per week and used the internet for > 20 hours per week. And that was an internet without Youtube, without Spotify, without Netflix, without Steam. Normies did the opposite. Normies would also make fun of "antisocial online nerds" while they themselves would just park their asses in front of the normiebox after work and turn their brains off while the nerds communicated and collaborated with people from all over the world on anything you could possibly talk about and collaborate on with a computer.
     
     I never used a Chromium-based browser as a daily driver (*a six month streak of Vivaldi is the most).
     
     I still have never had a Netflix account.
     
     I had Spotify and cancelled it after two years.
     
     I'm in my second year of Apple Music and I'm thinking about cancelling that and going back to an mp3 collection because I'm not discovering enough new exciting music to justify the ongoing cost just to replay my old favorites over and over. Apple Music is the *only* website I use that even uses the horrific HTML5 DRM crap they bullied Mozilla into implementing. Before Apple Music, Spotify was the only site that used it.
     
     The real threat is - to the normies. It's them who the cabal wants to view more ads. It's them whose engagement they want "attested", so they can charge advertisers more money. I don't feel threatened. I never depended on the normiebox to make it through the week and I will never depend on the normienet either. The cabal doesn't care about me. It doesn't even know I'm there. It doesn't want to extinguish me or the tech I use. It only cares about the normies. We'll be fine.
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   • Julia :verified_trans: (julia@snug.moe)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 23:09:33 JST Julia :verified_trans:

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     • Dushman

     @dushman@den.raccoon.quest @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club @pingviini@pleroma.shunderdo.me what's stopping sites from just not accepting browsers without the API?

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   • Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 23:09:34 JST Dushman

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     • Antarctic Chique

     @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club @pingviini@pleroma.shunderdo.me
     I feel like this debacle is overblown. No sane browser will adopt this. Chrome users get what they signed up for (being absolutely shat on by Google).

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   • mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 23:09:35 JST mangeurdenuage

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     • Antarctic Chique
     @pingviini That's just an example I could have put a spreadsheet or text file instead. The point is you will be pressured to so much extent have to use some of these otherwise you'll be jobless/isolated.
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   • Antarctic Chique (pingviini@pleroma.shunderdo.me)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 23:09:36 JST Antarctic Chique

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     @mangeurdenuage I've never owned an ebook-reader either. If entertainment text for normies requires unbeatable DRM in the future, I will cease to read entertainment text for normies. I hardly read any of it now already.
   • mangeurdenuage (mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 23:09:37 JST mangeurdenuage

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     • Antarctic Chique
     @pingviini As said in another thread my issue is that the more DRMs get implemented the more it's used outside it's initial scope, would you tolerate DRM based PDF in the future that requires an internet connection to read ? of course not, but you most probably will once 99% of the population will accept it without questioning.
   • Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 23:11:12 JST Dushman

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     • Julia :verified_trans:

     @julia@snug.moe @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club @pingviini@pleroma.shunderdo.me
     This would be illegal in Europe lol

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   • 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 (jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 23:11:34 JST 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙

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     • Julia :verified_trans:
     • Dushman
     @dushman
     @mangeurdenuage @julia @pingviini
     
     
     > the solution is to not use shit services
     
     Switch to GNUnet today.
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   • Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 23:11:35 JST Dushman

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     • Antarctic Chique
     • Julia :verified_trans:

     @julia@snug.moe @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club @pingviini@pleroma.shunderdo.me
     I highly doubt any site will even enfroce it like this. But yeah the solution is to not use shit services.

   • Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 23:11:36 JST Dushman

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     • Julia :verified_trans:

     @julia@snug.moe @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club @pingviini@pleroma.shunderdo.me
     Also that would impact a ton of normos who do not even know this is a thing

   • Machismo (zerglingman@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 23:12:00 JST Machismo

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     • Dushman
     @dushman haha lynx go brr
   • Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 23:12:00 JST Dushman

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     @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club @julia@snug.moe @pingviini@pleroma.shunderdo.me
     Bro like two people use GNU net, not saying it's bad but Tor is more viable lol. It's built with anonymity in mind and already has a fuck ton of users.

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   • 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 (jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 23:12:01 JST 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙

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     • Dushman
     @dushman
     @mangeurdenuage @julia @pingviini
     
     Here we go, you took less than a minute to say something utterly wrong and retarded.
   • Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 23:12:02 JST Dushman

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     @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club @julia@snug.moe @pingviini@pleroma.shunderdo.me
     Tor is better

   • burner (burner@frennet.xyz)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 23:12:12 JST burner

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     • Antarctic Chique

     @pingviini@pleroma.shunderdo.me @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club because of regionlocking, pirating music off Soulseek and listening with foobar2000 is far, far more convenient than Spotify. And also flac, so it's just better.

   • Dushman (dushman@den.raccoon.quest)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 23:12:19 JST Dushman

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     @jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe @mangeurdenuage@shitposter.club @julia@snug.moe @pingviini@pleroma.shunderdo.me GNUnet is aiming to replace TCP/IP.Oh. Really? That is actually interesting. How far have they gotten by now?

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   • 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙 (jihadjimmy@the.asbestos.cafe)'s status on Sunday, 23-Jul-2023 23:12:20 JST 𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙𝅙

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     • Dushman
     @dushman
     @mangeurdenuage @julia @pingviini
     
     Tor and GNUnet have two different scopes but I don't expect you to know that.
     
     GNUnet is aiming to replace TCP/IP. Tor tries to work on top of it and it's fucking trash, it's unusuable on weekends, there are not enough exit nodes for the activity it has and because of fucking glowniggers trying to de-anonymize people they have to be very careful when accepting new exit nodes into the network.
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