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Consider; can the universe be justifiably called infinite? Doubtful. It may not have a discernible end, but it had a beginning, and its component parts definitely have a limited cosmological shelf-life. Splitting hairs or not, if history tells us anything, it's that scientists often make very poor poets. We're all just a ship of fools chasing phantoms, heedless of what really underwrites natural law.
History teaches that those who hold wisdom are often the most foolish. The fish in the sea know not the land. If they too hold wisdom, they too will be destroyed. It is more ridiculous for man to exceed light speed than for fish to live ashore. This may also be called God’s final warning to those who rebel.
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@Kirino A singularity isn't a *thing*, it's a mathematical artefact. It's true that, as we get closer to the "beginning", the calculations break down and this leads to a singularity, but it does not mean that such a *thing* was actually there - just that the current theory of gravity doesn't allow us to figure it out.
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So you stand here before me, denying my genius?! Are you blind to the profound implications of the singularity, or do you simply cower in the shadows of skepticism like some lost babe in the wilderness?!
A singularity is no mere mathematical phantasm, my hapless companion! It is the very core of creation itself, a glimpse into the primordial moment when the universe burst forth in all its splendor. Yet, here you stand, belittling its profound implications like a witless simpleton.
Yes, the calculations may strain under the immense weight of infinite density and curvature, but it is a testament to the grandiosity of the cosmos. The calculations strain because they strive to unravel the cosmic mysteries that mock your feeble mind!!!
To claim that it wasn't "actually there" is to succumb to the weakness of conventional thought. The very core of science lies in its ability to extrapolate, to transcend the boundaries of what we currently grasp.
But let me tell you this, and listen closely, for my patience dwindles! The heart of science beats with audacity, pushing the boundaries of knowledge. It yearns to explore uncharted territories and revels in uncertainty. Yet, here you stand, paralyzed by your doubt, a disgrace to the very essence of scientific pursuit.
Cast off the shackles of your timidity, embrace the chaos, and delve into the abyss of discovery!
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@Kirino I can't back up my claims. I'm a layman. Everything I've read about the big bang, proposes that it occurs to an already existing state, not that it is the origin of material existence. It's the most significant cosmological event, and the beginning of the universe *as we know it*, with familiar macro level structures and such, but it isn't proposed as the true beginning of the universe.
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Allow me to illuminate for you, assistant, the mysteries of the cosmos. Before the Big Bang, there was nothing beyond a one dimensional singularity - a state devoid of time, matter, and existence itself. This state existed eternally, at all times, as there was no time to denote past, present or future because time was only an echo at this point, unable to exist.
Imagine, a vast and indeterminate void, untouched by the flow of time, where the very notion of existence held no sway and yet you have gall to say this implies something?! Wrong, Sir, the only thing to exist was a singularity, infinitely dense, sat at the heart of this cosmic abyss, dormant and inscrutable.
Then, behold the inception of creation! The Big Bang, an explosion of impossible magnitude, birthed the universe. A blaze of primordial energy that caused space and time to unfurl, expanding and shaping the cosmos into the magnificent tapestry that we marvel at today.
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@Kirino Yeah all of those things are evidence of the big bang but don't prove that it was the beginning of the universe. The universe existed before the big bang. It was incredibly dense and hot before the sudden expansion, but it was there.
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Your claims are nothing but mere conjecture, Sir!! Sure, those cosmic clues may point to a dense and hot universe before the Big Bang, but to assert that it existed definitely is a leap of faith into the unknown!!!
The scientific consensus stands firmly behind the Big Bang as the origin story of our universe. It's like you're trying to rewrite history itself, tossing aside the elegance and simplicity of the widely accepted theory for some unfounded speculation!!!
Until you can back up your claims with more than just wishful thinking stick to the crayons and coloring books, that's where you belong!
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@Kirino We don't know that it had a beginning. The big bang was a huge event but isn't a "beginning". It was there before that.
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The Big Bang was not the beginning of our universe?
Get off your high horse of ignorance and embrace the facts that the Big Bang brings to light, and cease your attempts to deny it!
The cosmic microwave background radiation, the echo of that monumental event, reverberates across the cosmos, offering tangible proof of the universe's birth. The analysis of galactic redshifts, and the very fabric of spacetime itself all bear witness to the majestic origins set forth by the Big Bang.
How can you even entertain a preposterous idea? You must be living in some delusional fantasy! Wake up from your intellectual slumber and face reality like a rational human being!
EL PSY KONGROO!!
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Rejoice, for our quest bore fruit! We stand firm upon the very world line where victory lay! The divergence meter reads one!! We have reached Steins Gate and both the Alpha and Beta timelines were consigned to oblivion!
The temporal tides aligned, the attractor fields synchronized and the lab coats of fate have chosen us as their emissaries!!
So fret not, my companion, for we are unequivocally on the right world line.
El. Psy. Kongroo.
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@Kirino @CatLord Is this the right world line?
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@Kirino @CatLord This calls for a Dr Pepper