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Years later and people still on about that BLESSED MASTODON = GOOD and THE DEVIL PLEROMA = BAD? Or have Misskey forks taken the spotlight as "good" instances now?
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@nyarlathotep @chjara it's because being branded an internet Nazi is worse than being branded a pedophile. hence the "at least I'm not rude" meme.
Poast, a few sites that are dead and don't federate anymore, and shitposters are blocked more than actual pedos. Really makes you think.
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@chjara It makes me laugh that Misskey has taken off so much in spite of this, meanwhile Pleroma can't escape its dev history
That being said it's still dumb to assume morals from what software is being used, especially when the options are actually super different in presentation and user experience, both in the back and front ends
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@nyarlathotep misskey forks are good too yes (even though syuilo is a borderline pedo, homophobic weirdo)
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@noyoushutthefuckupdad @chjara @nyarlathotep beaten by 2 instances not even up anymore smh
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@Pawlicker @chjara @nyarlathotep I miss smuglo.li, I had an alt there to post anime porn. Nepfag still posts here once in awhile.
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@Pawlicker @chjara @nyarlathotep we're not even in the top 10? Shitposters need to step up our game.
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@nyarlathotep I know @mint knows more but tldr signed fetch forcing, bad design choices like removing features and breaking mrfs to own "the Chuds", disabling relays by default, and many more
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@Pawlicker ... I definitely am not sending this post from an Akkoma instance currently...
What's the specific issue with Akkoma? I like it for Misskey compatibility now that everyone and their mother is using that shit, but I'm curious
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Unless a better fourth player comes out I will continue to die on a hill for Pleroma, it runs well AND isn't terribly bloated/overdone on the UI side. It Just Werks(tm)
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@nyarlathotep there's a jank ass pleroma fork with possible security holes called akkoma and using it is like lamb blood on your door literally
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@Pawlicker @nyarlathotep Exactly. They're part of the same ilk as gotosocial and calckey.
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@mint @nyarlathotep friend told me a funny story: the calckey dev will literally do anything to appease the mob (literally)
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@nyarlathotep @mint There's a lot of ways to circumvent it too. I know cum.salon has a way of doing so via proxying stuff.
A theme I think you'll agree with me on is the more you get into the Mastodon sphere of paranoia, the more "privacy through obscurity" increases. I'm talking about shit like scopes that can be MRF'd out, infamously easily leaked "private" messages, shouting down anyone who makes a search engine while Pleroma can act as one (so good compared to hashtags only that BoardReader was leeching off an instance), and whatnot.
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@Pawlicker @mint Aren't signed fetches the things that are essentially useless because you can just open a post on the instance it's from and completely circumvent it with 0 effort?
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@Pawlicker @mint Yeah, for some reason people seem to thing Mastodon/fedi is secure and has "privacy" but it is absolutely not -- everything is just different shades of public, and it's foolish to think otherwise. There's literally not even a hassle for admins to access private posts (at least on Pleroma)
It's not secure, but it's also not meant to be either -- it's public social media at the end of the day
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@nyarlathotep @mint Well it comes from the delusional Tumblr era mindset, fueled by Twitter's (and Big Tech's to an extent) potemkin village of privacy (remember when Ricky Vaughn got party vanned over tweets that hadn't been up for years after he was banned? or how when Twitter unbanned Trump to try to lure him back every single one of his posts was visible after years?)
I heard that when the Twitter files stuff happened, the only thing, and I mean the only thing the lefties gave a shit about was the fact that Twitter can in fact read your DMs. Which to people like us, is something we almost always assume given we've either been on a forum with admins reading PMs or had access to a control panel to do so. But they thought it was truly secure, except it wasn't.
The same mindset is at play with Mastodon and they think that if they can yell at people enough the problem goes away since it worked on Tumblr and Twitter after all.
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