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1. Terry (terry@bae.st)'s status on Friday, 06-Jan-2023 02:27:05 JST Terry
   Ukrainian intelligence announce Russia can only produce 15-20 Kalibr missiles per month
   
   Ok guys keep telling yourselves that
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   • jollybudd1350 🎄 :njp: 🎄 (johnbudd1350@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 06-Jan-2023 02:27:02 JST jollybudd1350 🎄 :njp: 🎄

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     • MyLittleFashy
     @EssentialUtinsil @MyLittleFashy @Bill_Boone @Terry Lmao it couldn't even stop piece of shit scud missiles, it has no chance against the Russians
   • EssentialUtinsil :njp: (essentialutinsil@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 06-Jan-2023 02:27:03 JST EssentialUtinsil :njp:

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     @Bill_Boone @Terry a patriot only has a decent chance of intercepting a hypersonic if it drops below about mach 6 (according to David Wright of MIT)
     airandspaceforces.com/article/hypersonics-defense/
     
     interesting article
   • MyLittleFashy (mylittlefashy@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 06-Jan-2023 02:27:03 JST MyLittleFashy

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     @EssentialUtinsil @Bill_Boone @Terry I would assume the software has been upgraded since the first gulf war, but the hardware is basically the same, and that hardware wasn’t even able to intercept what is basically a clone of the V2 in any reliable numbers back then.

     Have you seen a skud, it’s a ridiculously old missile, even if the russkies are overselling their capabilities, their missiles are obviously a lot better than skuds.

   • EssentialUtinsil :njp: (essentialutinsil@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 06-Jan-2023 02:27:03 JST EssentialUtinsil :njp:

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     @MyLittleFashy @Bill_Boone @Terry trtworld.com/magazine/the-patriot-missile-is-a-myth-23963
     
     Why the Patriot Missile doesn’t work
     
     The US 2019 Missile Defense Review cited the Patriot Advanced Capability-3 missile defence system’s "proven combat record”.
     
     US officials inflated its success during Operation Desert Storm significantly, however, surrounding the missile system with a mythical reputation for effectiveness.
     
     During the 1991 Gulf War, the American public was informed that the Patriot missile had a near-perfect record, intercepting a total of 45 out of 47 Scud missiles.
     
     This estimate was later revised down by the US army to about 50 percent. Even then, it noted "higher" confidence in only about 25 percent of the cases.
     
     A Congressional Research Service employee commented that if the US army had consistently and accurately applied its assessment method, the number would be far lower. Reportedly, this number was one Scud missile shot down.
     
     Following a House Committee on Government Operations investigation, not enough evidence was found to conclude that there had been any interceptions at all.
     
     There is little evidence to prove that the Patriot hit more than a few Scud missiles launched by Iraq during the Gulf War," the investigations concluded.
     
     "There are some doubts about even these engagements," it added.
     
     The report, which called for declassifying more information on the Patriot missile and an independent evaluation of the missile defence programme, was crushed under a lobbying campaign by the US army and Raytheon, leaving only a summary publically available.
   • Bill_Boone (bill_boone@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 06-Jan-2023 02:27:04 JST Bill_Boone

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     @Terry Hey, if they can only produce 15-20 then that means Ukraine only needs 15-20 patriot missiles every month to stop them... 🤔
   • Bill_Boone (bill_boone@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 06-Jan-2023 02:27:27 JST Bill_Boone

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     • jollybudd1350 🎄 :njp: 🎄
     • EssentialUtinsil :njp:
     • MyLittleFashy
     @johnbudd1350 @EssentialUtinsil @MyLittleFashy @Terry I was actually surprised when I heard people talking about it recently, I had always assumed it had been retired years ago...
     
     but I guess the grifting never ends with the US government