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1. cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 07:40:17 JST cool_boy_mew
   Well at least the fucking terminal version of trackma works, even if amazingly inconvenient
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 07:42:06 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • Julia :verified_trans:
     @julia
     
     https://github.com/z411/trackma
     
     After my distro upgrade, python broke and I don't know how to make trackma's graphical interfaces work again
   • Julia :verified_trans: (julia@snug.moe)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 07:42:07 JST Julia :verified_trans:

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     @coolboymew@shitposter.club whats trackma

   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 07:48:51 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • Julia :verified_trans:
     @lanodan @julia I have no fucking clue, but it might seem that everything python broke
     
     https://github.com/z411/trackma/issues/701
     
     Do you have any idea?
   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 07:48:52 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Julia :verified_trans:
     @coolboymew @julia Maybe bug your distro for it to be packaged?
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 07:53:13 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • Julia :verified_trans:
     @lanodan @julia as for bugging the distro, ehh, it's easy to install... usually
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 07:59:51 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • Julia :verified_trans:
     @lanodan @julia it's a mess because the github page used to have a pip less install
     
     not anymore
   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 07:59:54 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Julia :verified_trans:
     @coolboymew @julia Reminds me that someone else was struggling to install PyQt5 entirely on debian at the hackerspace last week…
     
     As for the pip thing, you'll probably have to use a venv, but well all the dependencies of trackma seem familiar to me so you shouldn't even have to use the horror that is pip.
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 08:00:13 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     • Julia :verified_trans:
     @EdBoatConnoisseur @julia I don't remember, I was on 21.3, upgraded to 23
   • EdBoatConnoisseur (edboatconnoisseur@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 08:00:14 JST EdBoatConnoisseur

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     • Julia :verified_trans:

     @coolboymew @julia what version of debian was the previous version of mx u were using based off? you could had been affected by the change in PEP 668 that forbids pip from installing stuff on the global environment and forces you to either install python programs from the distro repos OR inside a virtual environment.

   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 08:00:26 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Julia :verified_trans:
     @coolboymew @julia Well python stuff done outside of the system package manager typically needs to be entirely reinstalled after each major+minor upgrade of python (say 3.10→3.11).
     
     And packaging would also mean patches already being done in case of incompatibilities (rare in python world but still happens).
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 08:02:22 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • Julia :verified_trans:
     @lanodan @julia I also did install a bunch of stuff through pipx but it doesn't do much
     
     Is there a pip command to install pretty much all python tools?
   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 08:07:31 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • Julia :verified_trans:
     @lanodan @julia
     
     Hurr, according to the comments in the github issue I opened, "--break-system-packages" is extremely hyperbolic
     
     So I did
     pip3 install trackma --break-system-packages
     
     And it just worked
   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 08:09:31 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Julia :verified_trans:
     @coolboymew @julia Well if it's installed as a normal user it could be fine, as root it *will* definitely break your system.
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 08:10:18 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • Julia :verified_trans:
     @lanodan @julia I don't need it installed as root. Otherwise pip basically builds it in a matter of seconds, so everything it needed was clearly all installed already
     LS repeated this.
   • EdBoatConnoisseur (edboatconnoisseur@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 08:10:27 JST EdBoatConnoisseur

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     • Julia :verified_trans:

     @coolboymew @julia yep, mx 21.3 is based on debian 11.6 while mx 23 is based on debian 12, which does introduce the PEP 668 spec.

     so yes stuff installed with pip on the global env before the PEP 668 spec DOES get affected, just create a virtual env and re-install trackma there.

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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 08:10:42 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     • Julia :verified_trans:
     @EdBoatConnoisseur @julia someone suggested that "--break-system-packages" was hyperbolic, using this with pip3 did the job
   • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell: (lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 08:13:09 JST Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:

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     • Julia :verified_trans:
     @coolboymew @julia Or it just downloaded binaries. (yes, pypi isn't just source code…)
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 08:14:24 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • Haelwenn /элвэн/ :triskell:
     • Julia :verified_trans:
     @lanodan @julia hmm, maybe, I dunno, Trackma usually ends up shitting itself every couples of months so I have everything from source to pip installs all ready to go. I would not be surprised if it's an extremely lightweight program too
   • snappo (snappo@neckbeard.life)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 10:01:07 JST snappo

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     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     • Julia :verified_trans:
     @coolboymew @EdBoatConnoisseur @julia god damn it, I went to all this trouble for nothing I was about to tell you the same thing. God damn it.
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 14-Jul-2023 10:01:18 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     • Julia :verified_trans:
     • snappo
     @snappo @EdBoatConnoisseur @julia sorry! And thanks
   • snappo (snappo@neckbeard.life)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 06:04:47 JST snappo

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     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     • Julia :verified_trans:
     • snappo
     @coolboymew @EdBoatConnoisseur @julia I love that the ultimate solution was to activate the "bitch, don't tell me what to do" mode in pip
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   • cool_boy_mew (coolboymew@shitposter.club)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 06:05:39 JST cool_boy_mew

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     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     • Julia :verified_trans:
     • snappo
     @snappo @EdBoatConnoisseur @julia yeah. People in the github issue thread told me that they dislike the message because it's kinda bullshit, in that a lot of these requirements won't break your system
   • snappo (snappo@neckbeard.life)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 06:06:57 JST snappo

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     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     • Julia :verified_trans:
     @coolboymew @EdBoatConnoisseur @julia the absolute beauty of Linux and the app culture around it is that the bitch dont tell me what to do option even exists in the first place
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   • EdBoatConnoisseur (edboatconnoisseur@poa.st)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 06:12:45 JST EdBoatConnoisseur

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     • Julia :verified_trans:
     • snappo

     @snappo @coolboymew @julia Yeh, sudo rm -rf –no-preserve-root /* exists for a reason

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   • snappo (snappo@neckbeard.life)'s status on Tuesday, 25-Jul-2023 06:19:04 JST snappo

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     • EdBoatConnoisseur
     • Julia :verified_trans:
     @EdBoatConnoisseur @coolboymew @julia suicide spell
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