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1. Derek Powazek 🐐 (fraying@xoxo.zone)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jan-2023 06:27:10 JST Derek Powazek 🐐

   Huh. Progress.

   • Siderea, Sibylla Bostoniensis (siderea@universeodon.com)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jan-2023 06:27:05 JST Siderea, Sibylla Bostoniensis

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     @fraying AND FOR ANOTHER THING! If virality is a problem, there is a *whole other* class of technological solutions: throttling. There can be programmatic rules like "this can only be retweeted N times" or "a toot can be quoted only once per hour, first come, first served" or "limit boosting my toots to only boosters with <= N followers", to act like control rods on the nuclear reaction. I don't know what solutions here might be useful, but this solution space is not being explored.

   • Derek Powazek 🐐 (fraying@xoxo.zone)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jan-2023 06:27:08 JST Derek Powazek 🐐

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     Before anyone gets all up in my mentions (too late), there's a WORLD of options besides "everybody can quote anything" and "nobody can quote nothing" and you're already soaking in it. Mastodon ALREADY has a global user opt-out for search and several per-post privacy settings. We could do the same for quote privileges. Or maybe only mutuals could quote you? Or maybe you could withdraw consent to be quoted when it happens. There are SO MANY OPTIONS. Don't assume how it would go based on Twitter.

     Adrian Cochrane repeated this.
   • Derek Powazek 🐐 (fraying@xoxo.zone)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jan-2023 06:27:09 JST Derek Powazek 🐐

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     For one thing, if we had quote posts, I could have said that without resorting to a screenshot, which would be a lot better for accessibility.

   • Derek Powazek 🐐 (fraying@xoxo.zone)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jan-2023 06:27:09 JST Derek Powazek 🐐

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     Mastodon's (Eugen's) opposition to quote posts made sense in response to Twitter's toxicity in 2018, but it was always frankly naive to blame social problems on a user interface. Every problem you can blame on QTs you can say just as easily about any social tool. That's why we have admins, moderators, and guidelines. Social content is always first and foremost a social problem that we build supporting tools around, but the tools don't create behavior - observed behavior begets behavior.