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1. Lady Euromutt (lady_euromutt@nicecrew.digital)'s status on Tuesday, 03-Jan-2023 23:53:52 JST Lady Euromutt

   • xianc78
   • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
   • Rusty Crab
   • Santa Noodle ☦️
   Vaccines have not been shown to prevent disease:
   https://yewtu.be/watch?v=clJQV9HiPII
   
   Vaccines actually spread disease:
   https://stichtingvaccinvrij.nl/outbreak-of-over-12000-cases-of-measles-in-ukraine-is-caused-by-recent-vaccination-campaign/
   https://healthfreedomidaho.org/warning-vaccine-could-spread-chickenpox/
   https://www.westonaprice.org/studies-show-that-vaccinated-individuals-spread-disease/
   http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/09/18/flu-shot-increases-flu-illness.aspx
   
   Vaccines unironically cause autism:
   https://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/220807175/124-Research-Papers-Supporting-the-Vaccine-Autism-Link
   https://avscientificsupportarsenal.wordpress.com/2015/04/29/vaccines-do-cause-autism-undeniable-scientific-proof/
   
   Unvaccinated Children Are at a Lower Risk for Developmental Delay, Asthma, Ear Infections; GI Disorders:
   https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/2050312120925344
   
   The CDC admitted that it doesn't have proof for the claim that vaccines don't cause autism:
   https://www.infowars.com/cdc-admits-in-federal-court-it-does-not-have-studies-to-support-claim-vaccines-do-not-cause-autism/
   
   A documentary that debunks germ theory:
   https://terrainthefilm.com/world-premiere/?utm_source=Terrain%20%7C%20The%20Film%3A%20ALL&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Courtesy%20Email%3A%20NEW%20WATCH%20LINKS%20TO%20JOIN%20SATURDAY%3A%20Terrain%20The%20Film%20%28Th3SGj%29&_kx=hESbRJ3L8Kxt2d49DsKDpUCeZZ9vRsORST4LtQjUDEIP14E2Wf-Et_z2XnPHWOKw.UpXyYd
   
   Germ theory is not scientifically substantiated:
   https://viroliegy.com/
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   • Santa Noodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 04-Jan-2023 00:35:25 JST Santa Noodle ☦️

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     • xianc78
     • Ardainian Hebrew Israelite
     • Rusty Crab
     @Lady_Euromutt @ArdainianRight @xianc78 @RustyCrab Let me just start by saying I am not a shill for vax or pharma or anything else except my belief in God. I've long been critical of pharma, and I'm willing to (and have) changed my opinions on a number of issues over the years, particularly early childhood vaccination. I simply think you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater with a lot of this stuff. We discovered a ton of useful stuff in medicine in the 19th and 20th century, and much of that is ignored on purpose because of a combination of profit seeking and malicious actors.
     
     >Vaccines actually spread disease
     This is well known. The polio vaccine contributed massively to a spike in polio in urban areas; the solution amplified the problem, but it did solve it. Of course that creates new issues with the problems of introducing a foreign body, chemical carriers, and adjuvants as almost a necessity for the average person.
     For a more recent example, the NHL has had mumps outbreaks where (presumably vaccinated & younger) asymptomatic players shed it to others. Canada doesn't have the same mumps vax protocol as the USA.
     >Vaccination doesn't work
     How many vaccinated kids do you see with chicken pox? Compare that to communities like The Amish or Orthodox jews. Just because we do a poor job of it doesn't mean the concept is wrong. When I was small, I went to a 'pox party', which is functionally very similar to primitive inoculation. On the subject of chicken pox, shingles can allegedly be kept at bay by occasional exposure to chicken pox, which is something that no longer happens due to vaccination of children and smaller families.
     
     >Vaccines and autism
     Mechanistically plausible and I'm totally fine believing it. One point that no one has ever explained to me is why many vaccine manufacturers mix their batches before shipping. Could it possibly be to obfuscate data if a bad vax batch was created? I imagine if every vaccinated child in some city born within a 3 month window was autistic, it would ring a few alarms.
     
     >Terrain Theory
     Don't agree, and I don't think it's fair to ask me to watch (often poorly produced) videos taking up hours of my time to get me to believe something that fundamentally will not change my interaction with the world. The heuristic change is non-existent; you still wash your hands after handling garbage whether you're a terrain theorist or germ theory enjoyer.
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