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  1. Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:14:12 JST Jeff Cliff Jeff Cliff
    • Saskboy K.
    @saskboy

    It's meant as a credible threat

    "see how cruel and heartless I am to this group of defenseless people, when i could easily be kind? I will easily be this cruel and heartless to you when it's your turn, so stay in line or else"

    and we can do it too, ( but there's a risk: if you oversignal, and if you don't keep it up people take advantage of the emptiness of your threats...and if you *do* people will be tempted to test you -- a prince's head is attached to his body only for so long unless he's machiavelli-level ruthless )

    https://twitter.com/bretoncrellin/status/1671861085706797057
    In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:14:12 JST from shitposter.club permalink

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    • Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:14:11 JST Hyolobrika Hyolobrika
      in reply to
      • Saskboy K.
      Is refusing to bow to someone cruel?
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:14:11 JST permalink
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    • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:15:22 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
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      • Hyolobrika
      • Saskboy K.
      @Hyolobrika @saskboy @jeffcliff white guilt
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:15:22 JST permalink
    • Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:15:27 JST Hyolobrika Hyolobrika
      in reply to
      • Saskboy K.
      How can you refuse to bow to someone as a threat? It sure shows a lack of (inordinate) respect, but that's not a *threat*.

      Why is Canada bowing to indigenous people anyway? Do they see them as somehow superior?
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:15:27 JST permalink
    • Saskboy K. (saskboy@mastodon.cc)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:15:29 JST Saskboy K. Saskboy K.
      in reply to
      • Hyolobrika

      @Hyolobrika @jeffcliff yes, when PP does it as a threat, as Jeff noted.

      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:15:29 JST permalink
    • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:17:52 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
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      • Hyolobrika
      • Saskboy K.
      @Hyolobrika @saskboy @jeffcliff sadly it seems most "good intentions" these days are taken too far or distorted
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:17:52 JST permalink
    • Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:17:53 JST Hyolobrika Hyolobrika
      in reply to
      • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
      • Saskboy K.
      I understand a moment of silence for what (probably) happened to them. But bowing doesn't seem right.
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:17:53 JST permalink
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    • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:18:53 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
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      • Hyolobrika
      • Saskboy K.
      @saskboy @jeffcliff @Hyolobrika 🤣 Saskatchewanians share a common language
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:18:53 JST permalink
    • Saskboy K. (saskboy@mastodon.cc)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:18:56 JST Saskboy K. Saskboy K.
      in reply to
      • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
      • Hyolobrika

      @thatguyoverthere @jeffcliff @Hyolobrika you're a manipulative liar, DP.

      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:18:56 JST permalink
    • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:19:23 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
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      • Hyolobrika
      • Saskboy K.
      @jeffcliff @Hyolobrika @saskboy you'd prefer to put words in his mouth :shrug:
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:19:23 JST permalink
    • Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:19:24 JST Jeff Cliff Jeff Cliff
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      • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
      • Hyolobrika
      • Saskboy K.
      Yeah, I think so in this case
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:19:24 JST permalink
    • Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:19:25 JST Hyolobrika Hyolobrika
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      • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
      • Saskboy K.
      Is what he said wrong?
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:19:25 JST permalink
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    • Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:21:34 JST Jeff Cliff Jeff Cliff
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      • Hyolobrika
      • Saskboy K.
      we don't bow on rememberance day out of subservience
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:21:34 JST permalink
    • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:21:34 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
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      • Hyolobrika
      • Saskboy K.
      @jeffcliff @Hyolobrika @saskboy it's labeled as a bow of respect, but it's subservience to the system as indicated by the outrage that someone might not play along
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:21:34 JST permalink
    • Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:21:35 JST Jeff Cliff Jeff Cliff
      in reply to
      • Hyolobrika
      • Saskboy K.
      It's not bowing to indigenous people it's bowing in respect
      different kind of bow
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:21:35 JST permalink
    • Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:21:35 JST Hyolobrika Hyolobrika
      in reply to
      • Saskboy K.
      Maybe I'm just too autistic to get it or I'm being pedantic but I've always thought of bowing (outside of Japan) as a thing to show a special level of subservience to someone.
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:21:35 JST permalink
    • Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:22:23 JST Hyolobrika Hyolobrika
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      • Saskboy K.
      Ah. You bow on other days as well. My bad. Here, when we want to remember a group of people who suffered (be they pure victims or soldiers) we just stand in silence for a while. At least, when we did that at school I don't remember anyone bowing.
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:22:23 JST permalink
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    • Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:22:34 JST Hyolobrika Hyolobrika
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      • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
      • Saskboy K.
      Not what I meant.
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:22:34 JST permalink
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    • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:23:47 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
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      • Hyolobrika
      • Saskboy K.
      @Hyolobrika @saskboy @jeffcliff that was what I meant by white guilt. Being white and not demonstrating the appropriate signals of respect is a major faux pas
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:23:47 JST permalink
    • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:23:57 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
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      • Hyolobrika
      • Saskboy K.
      @Hyolobrika @saskboy @jeffcliff not true. I just don't like coercion
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:23:57 JST permalink
    • Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:23:58 JST Hyolobrika Hyolobrika
      in reply to
      • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
      • Saskboy K.
      You just don't like any kind of respect for other people or social obligation whatsoever. You only care about yourself.
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:23:58 JST permalink
    • Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:34:00 JST Jeff Cliff Jeff Cliff
      in reply to
      • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
      • Hyolobrika
      • Saskboy K.
      PP is clearly making a statement on his own, and the only one who even could be coercing him is stephen harper.
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:34:00 JST permalink
    • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:34:00 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
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      • Hyolobrika
      • Saskboy K.
      @jeffcliff @Hyolobrika @saskboy maybe. I don't know if he'd sign off on the statement you prepared for him. I don't know the guy. I don't really know enough about the situation to have any strong opinions. I don't know who stephen harper is either. I don't really follow Canadian politics. I do think that there is a lot of white guilt nonsense intertwined with [insert the current politically correct word for indigenous people in your area] issues in both of our countries, and while I am sympathetic to the idea that people were displaced when people came here, I think this is the case across the world, and there is no one shade of human who has oppressed others less over the span of human existence. All of our hands are bloody.
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:34:00 JST permalink
    • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:37:51 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
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      • Hyolobrika
      • Saskboy K.
      @Hyolobrika @saskboy @jeffcliff perhaps I am misunderstanding, but at least down here the guilt is inherited.
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:37:51 JST permalink
    • Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:37:56 JST Hyolobrika Hyolobrika
      in reply to
      • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
      • Saskboy K.
      Feeling sorry for someone ≠ guilt
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:37:56 JST permalink
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    • Chumchum Tumtum (fcktheworld587@social.linux.pizza)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:37:58 JST Chumchum Tumtum Chumchum Tumtum
      in reply to
      • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
      • Hyolobrika
      • Saskboy K.

      @Hyolobrika @saskboy @jeffcliff @thatguyoverthere yeah sympathy and remorse are not the same thing

      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:37:58 JST permalink
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    • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:40:32 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
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      • Hyolobrika
      • Saskboy K.
      @Hyolobrika @saskboy @jeffcliff I don't know why he didn't. There were people who chose not to take a knee during our national anthem during that whole thing, and they were cast as assholes too :shrug:
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:40:32 JST permalink
    • Hyolobrika (hyolobrika@social.fbxl.net)'s status on Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:40:35 JST Hyolobrika Hyolobrika
      in reply to
      • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:
      • Saskboy K.
      All of that is true. But we have moments of silence (and apparently in canada, bow) for many tragedies. Why not this one?
      It doesn't have to imply feeling guilty for something your ancestors did and it doesn't have to be coercive.
      In conversation Friday, 23-Jun-2023 05:40:35 JST permalink
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