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1. Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 06:50:41 JST Jeff Cliff

   • memes_1336 "NOT QUITE ELITE"
   The fires in canada are not all arson
   
   and even of the ones which are human-caused, the whole of the north is dry right now - alberta especially is bone dry and hot. Fire is more likely to catch and go out of control under these conditions
   
   and climate change is not a 'scam'
   • diceynes (diceynes@cawfee.club)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 06:50:37 JST diceynes

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     • thadius
     @Nou @jeffcliff @memes_1336 @thadius This is the water levels here in Spain since 2013. The blue is the actual level each year.The black is the average statistically 5 years at a time since measuring began.And the red the average 10 years at a time since measures began.
   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 06:50:37 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     • diceynes
     @diceynes @memes_1336 @thadius @Nou @jeffcliff knowing how fast we are sucking up ocean floors and riverbeds to make new concrete and asphalt, I don't really trust sea level measurements as an indicator of the volume of water in the ocean. How do you know these numbers aren't effected by sand mining in any way?
   • Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 06:50:38 JST Jeff Cliff

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     • thadius
     i'm a fag for *checks notes* defending a white woman who's being slighted for no good reason
     
     uh...huh.
   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 06:50:38 JST Nick

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     @jeffcliff @memes_1336 @thadius @GretaThunberg She's FAS-race, not White. And she deserves all the ridicule she gets.
     
     That being said, since this is clearly so important to you...
     @GretaThunberg
     Show us your tits.
   • thadius (thadius@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 06:50:39 JST thadius

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     @jeffcliff I have nothing to say to her level of compromised. Thanks for the tip though. @memes_1336

   • Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 06:50:39 JST Jeff Cliff

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     • thadius
     you have nothing to say to her but you'll talk shit about her?
     rude
   • Nick (nou@poa.st)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 06:50:39 JST Nick

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     • thadius
     @jeffcliff @thadius @memes_1336 Lmao.
     Fag.
   • thadius (thadius@noagendasocial.com)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 06:50:40 JST thadius

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     @jeffcliff how did i know you'd be all greta on climate change... @memes_1336

   • Jeff Cliff (jeffcliff@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 06:50:40 JST Jeff Cliff

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     • thadius
     you know she's on the fediverse, you can tag her
   • diceynes (diceynes@cawfee.club)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 06:55:03 JST diceynes

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     • thadius
     @thatguyoverthere @memes_1336 @thadius @thatguyoverthere @memes_1336 @thadius It rains less and less. This year it only rained twice in Andalusia. It used to rain a good amount in winter. Last year the harvests was partially ruined. This year most harvest in Andalusia have serious problems. The olives dry up. Everything dependant on rain dry up
   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 06:55:03 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     • diceynes
     @diceynes @memes_1336 @thadius if there is more water wouldn't it rain more?
   • diceynes (diceynes@cawfee.club)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 07:09:19 JST diceynes

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     • thadius
     @thatguyoverthere @memes_1336 @thadius its drying up steadily each passing year. It gets warmer each passing year here. I guess if you live in a country that isn’t affected by the problems it’s easy to make all sorts of assumptions. But when you live the reality of the changes you realise it. A English neighbour in the Sierra where we for vacation sold his house because he saw it would lose all its value when there wasn’t any drinking water in that municipality. I see the reservoirs dried out with my own eyes. Rivers are no longer flowing.
   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 07:09:19 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     • diceynes
     @diceynes @memes_1336 @thadius do you think there are no other explanations than human caused climate change though? The world is constantly changing, and we do things to manipulate the natural state outside of just farting and driving cars. Creating dams and redirecting water in one area can have an impact in other areas for example. Another is cloud seeding which happens around the world. I don't see how seeding clouds in Dubai doesn't cause it not to rain somewhere else for example. Do it enough times and you alter the patterns in potentially unpredictable ways.
     
     https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dubai-rain-cloud-seeding-heat-weather/
   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 07:14:50 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     • diceynes
     @diceynes @memes_1336 @thadius I also acknowledge that the weather patterns have changed within my lifetime. I think there are some things that humans do that are bad for the planet, but I don't think releasing CO2 is a major issue we should be focusing our attention on. I'm much more inclined to think the novel molecules we've created that disrupt natural processes in living beings are more of a problem.
     
     Rain patterns can also be affected by erosion which can be caused by poor farming practices. Less organic material in the soil means less water retention which then leads to less available water for evaporation.
   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 07:15:25 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     • diceynes
     @diceynes @memes_1336 @thadius @jeffcliff yes trust the mainstream media :nod:
   • diceynes (diceynes@cawfee.club)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 07:15:26 JST diceynes

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     • thadius
     @thatguyoverthere @memes_1336 @thadius It has gone very fast the last five years each year more catastrophic than the next, Big oil executives ordered scientists to make experiments in the 70s that showed the current situation like it is now in their simulations back then. Big oil was aware that the the planet would get destroyed in unearthed documents back in the 70s. This is well known by revelations in the mainstream media. CC @jeffcliff
   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 07:36:33 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     • diceynes
     @diceynes @memes_1336 @thadius Yeah I don't know if it's really tin foil to say there might be natural explanations (or alternative well documented explanations) for the changes we perceive around us. The article I sent about Dubai is a few years old, but they are not the only people seeding clouds. The US Government says that cloud seeding is common around air ports. I know scientists say it's fine, but do you think there is a chance they are wrong? If more and more people adopt cloud seeding technology around you do you think there might be less available atmospheric water for rain in your own area?
     
     As for natural explanations, the solar cycles have an impact on climate. So do volcanoes. Solar cycles might even affect volcanoes.
     
     I'm not saying we should treat the planet like shit mind you. I am saying that I am not convinced that CO2 is the cause of all the problems. I'm not convinced that we can or should try to alter the temperature intentionally, and I'm not sure we have had an impact specifically on temperature by accident either. There seem to be other explanations, and honestly more serious issues we could be trying to address (like top soil erosion which can lead to drought and floods).
     
     https://www.worldwildlife.org/threats/soil-erosion-and-degradation
   • diceynes (diceynes@cawfee.club)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 07:36:34 JST diceynes

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     @thatguyoverthere @memes_1336 @thadius The documents was revealed and they reported about it. I don’t trust them at all but know from all sources about big oils predictions being like todays climate. I think some of the scientists came out talking about it and the documents was revealed. We can’t go completely tin foil.
   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 18:38:47 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     • diceynes
     @diceynes @memes_1336 @thadius yeah I don't know this supposed oil company prediction paper or the math that went into it. What I know is that the planet moves through heating and cooling cycles which are probably affected by larger solar cycles which may be affected by larger galactic cycles that we fleas on a tiny planet know nothing about. I also think that we have plenty of problems we do create on the planet we should probably be more focused on, but we're dumping a lot of energy into reducing co2. There might be ancillary improvements to co2 production if we focused on top soil preservation for example.
   • diceynes (diceynes@cawfee.club)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 18:38:49 JST diceynes

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     @thatguyoverthere @memes_1336 @thadius Then all scientist are wrong that was payed by big oil to make the almost mathematically accurate predictions that exists today. They were surprised themselves by these revelations by the scientists and choose to hush it down. And most scientists today that aren’t payed by big oil to seed doubt would also need to be wrong. And enthusiasts on the internet would be right?
   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 18:39:53 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     • diceynes
     @diceynes @memes_1336 @thadius also as far as scientific publication goes, it's mostly been profit driven rather than science driven since at least the end of ww2
   • Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 19:23:47 JST Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think:

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     • ringo
     • diceynes
     @ringo @diceynes @memes_1336 @thadius damn I had a reply types up and lost it. Let's try again.
     
     I think it's important to draw a distinction between climate change and human caused climate change. I believe based on my own experience that the climate has changed within my lifetime. When I was a kid I made money every year shoveling snow. These days we might see a little snow, but hardly enough to justify a kid walking around town with a shovel. On the other end of the spectrum I am sitting here for the 2nd day in a row wearing a hoody on my porch in June. This would have been unheard of in my youth.
     
     I think that we do add to environmental distress. I don't believe the gases we produce are the most harmful waste products though. I think the novel molecules we invent and release into the environment are much more of a problem, mainly because their effects can be witnessed directly. Atrazine making the freaking frogs gay for example.
   • ringo (ringo@talk-here.com)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 19:23:52 JST ringo

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     • diceynes
     @thatguyoverthere @diceynes @memes_1336 @thadius
     
     to put it simply: the climate change thing is an elaborate lie planned decades ahead of time (ahead of our present days), by the global cabalistic nephilim elite, to further a plan they've had to control earths population since oh, the beginning of human history.
     Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: likes this.
   • ringo (ringo@talk-here.com)'s status on Wednesday, 14-Jun-2023 22:22:22 JST ringo

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     • diceynes
     @thatguyoverthere @diceynes @memes_1336 @thadius
     
     i agree that people treat the environment very poorly.
     
     temperatures and such go up and down in cycles,
     
     and we're imho not capable of changing the climate globally to that scale. just, not possible.
     
     the hydrological cycle is abiotic, much like oil is, and each system balances one another out.
     
     its not "hackable" as the leaders would love for people to believe.
     
     i dont know if you've noticed it or not, but most of the world has been flooding on and off since last july.