@mangeurdenuage@mushroom_soup always forget stevia. I used to have a plant but it died. I actually just picked up a little seed but I always heard it was tricky to grow from seed so we'll see how it goes.
@ringo@mushroom_soup@mangeurdenuage it's been a while since I read much on it. For a long time it wasn't even allowed to be marketed as a sweetener, but I suspected at the time that was because things like sucralose can't compete with a plant. Honestly using any low calorie sweetener too much can probably lead to problems, but when I used to follow stevia research I seem to remember it being able to lower glycemic index in diabetics.
I remember having to buy it as a "nutritional supplement" because laws are retarded.
@mangeurdenuage@mushroom_soup they sell those heated seed pads but I don't even have anywhere to plug in right now in my greenhouse. I'm gonna give it a go once I get the seed, and if the plants seem likely to not survive the winter I'll bring a few indoors or something.
@ringo@mushroom_soup@mangeurdenuage seems like the only potential impact they are claiming to have found was exclusive to rats and related to fertility, but as Lipton pointed out, if it translated to humans you'd expect areas where it's used widely to have lower birth rates. The us and European birth rate is in decline.
Fertility concerns are serious, but if you have to consume multiples of your bodyweight to see those effects I don't know if it's a real concern. They did mention genotoxicity, but again I question the dosages. Almost anything taken at high enough concentration can become toxic.
@thatguyoverthere@ringo@mushroom_soup > For a long time it wasn't even allowed to be marketed as a sweetener, but I suspected at the time that was because things like sucralose can't compete with a plant. It's totally bs, the study that was shilled to ban stevia was massively taken out of proportion, any mice dies/gets sterilized if you suddenly inject it with something that is 2 times it's own weight.
@thatguyoverthere@mushroom_soup >I'll bring a few indoors or something. I tried at the beginning of the year, but I can't heat about 14°C due to cost. Now I could plant them the weather is over 20°C daily but it's a bit late for the season.
@ringo@mushroom_soup@mangeurdenuage I try to get my vitamins from whole foods as much as I can. Right now we're overrun with fruit. Mulberries are incredibly high in vitamin c. A single serving has more than half of your daily minimum.
@mangeurdenuage@mushroom_soup@ringo unless I'm following a recipe which requires precision, I'm not generally one to weigh my food. I base it on the size of my hands usually.
@mushroom_soup@thatguyoverthere@ringo Depends on the amount of cocoa inside, otherwise it's lots of sugar/carbs which will trigger an insulin response which will store the sugar as fat, and the more you eat sugar the worse it gets because the more you ask your body to produce insulin the more resistant your body becomes to insulin, thus it needs to produce more insulin to assimilate that sugar. Best solution is to get chocolate erythritol or just eat 90% chocolate but very few like that last one.
Went to dark chocolate to try and stave the female sweet tooth and occasionally put a low sugar peanut butter on it (one of those organic oily ones), it is less sugar and is actually good for you. It'll be hard at first, because it isn't as sweet, but if you force it it grows on you.