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1. PinochetsCommieCopter (pinochetscommiecopter@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 04-Jun-2023 04:14:17 JST PinochetsCommieCopter
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   • Spergo1875 (spergo1875@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 04-Jun-2023 04:14:13 JST Spergo1875

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     • That Would Be Telling
     @ThatWouldBeTelling @PinochetsCommieCopter Fair. But I don't think you're being grug enough.
     Progress over perfection.
   • Spergo1875 (spergo1875@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 04-Jun-2023 04:14:14 JST Spergo1875

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     @ThatWouldBeTelling @PinochetsCommieCopter The thing is the more orthodox small hats would argue religious grounds, spouting that being anti-circumcision is anti-semitism. The smarter more left leaning ones would argue on the medical front, or just keep their mouths shut about it all together as to not draw attention.
     No one protest, argument, display of activism is going to win the war outright. They hit us from from any angle whenever they can, even when it's a laughable attempt. We need to do the same to them. Hit them from every angle within the bounds of the law.
   • That Would Be Telling (thatwouldbetelling@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 04-Jun-2023 04:14:14 JST That Would Be Telling

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     @Spergo1875 @PinochetsCommieCopter “No one protest, argument, display of activism is going to win the war outright. They hit us from from any angle whenever they can, even when it’s a laughable attempt. We need to do the same to them. Hit them from every angle within the bounds of the law.”

     What makes you think that strategy is a good one today or in the foreseeable future. Is that how they started gaining serious power in the US in the last 19th Century?

     And look at how effective Jewish hard and soft power is at countering all levels of opposition to them, from indirect, completely not targeted at them like, oh, Trump, to the more direct stuff where the GOPe is more on their side than the Democrats….

     I don’t think you’re being as “wise as serpents.”

   • Spergo1875 (spergo1875@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 04-Jun-2023 04:14:15 JST Spergo1875

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     • That Would Be Telling
     @ThatWouldBeTelling @PinochetsCommieCopter Well, what group would protest banning it the loudest?
     Even though there are medical exceptions, none that I'm aware of would require the procedure being done on a newborn infant.
   • That Would Be Telling (thatwouldbetelling@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 04-Jun-2023 04:14:15 JST That Would Be Telling

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     @Spergo1875 @PinochetsCommieCopter Indeed on the group most protesting it, but again, there’s medical arguments, not “exceptions” for circumcision.

     The arguments for poisoning, sterilizing, castrating, and sexually molesting children so they won’t want to or be able to reproduce naturally are … less strong. That’s the only reason conservatives are lifting a finger to quite modestly restrict these practices, and only for those under eighteen while allowing “sanctuaries” where these crazy people can go to anyway.

     So you’re choosing difficult if not impossible ground to get at a target that while deserving, again has medical arguments in their favor. Worse, you’re trying to do them a small injury per Machiavelli that doesn’t affect any of their real strengths.

     In fact, there are very very few successful eugenic systems in history (overproduction of higher classes and their replacing low reproduction lower classes like in England is another example), they could and should argue circumcision is a Chesterton’s fence they should not be forced to abandon.

   • Spergo1875 (spergo1875@poa.st)'s status on Sunday, 04-Jun-2023 04:14:16 JST Spergo1875

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     @PinochetsCommieCopter My question is, how can we steer this "debate" into the CQ...the circumcision question.
     Some slippery slopes I think we can use to our advantage.
   • That Would Be Telling (thatwouldbetelling@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 04-Jun-2023 04:14:16 JST That Would Be Telling

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     @Spergo1875 @PinochetsCommieCopter Given that there are medical arguments for circumcision and obvious limits to how much harm it causes it sounds like much tougher ground on which to fight.

     How much of this is for an attempt to then slip to the JQ?

   • That Would Be Telling (thatwouldbetelling@shitposter.club)'s status on Sunday, 04-Jun-2023 04:14:39 JST That Would Be Telling

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     • Spergo1875

     @Spergo1875 @PinochetsCommieCopter “Progress over perfection.”

     I’m not communicating well. I’m trying to get across how I see this one gambit just won’t work at all, is not “progress.” Demanding a reasonable chance at success is not demanding perfection.