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Richard Carroll (cheshire_ocelot@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 00:38:09 JST 
Richard Carroll
Good article to keep handy on the many common myths about the Middle Ages.
https://fakehistoryhunter.net/2019/09/10/medieval-myths-bingo/-
Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 00:38:07 JST 
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@apropos @Cheshire_Ocelot lots of people who drank water that hadn't been processed in some way died from water born illness. I've never heard it said no one drank water, but beer and other fermented beverages were probably somewhat popular when refrigeration didn't exist. I imagine this is the myth being busted by that first one? -
of nothing (apropos@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 00:38:08 JST 
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@Cheshire_Ocelot
>nobody drank water
>not racially diverse
>death penalty common
these are lies? NOOOOOOOO
>torches all over the place
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Santa Noodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 01:04:28 JST 
Santa Noodle ☦️
@thatguyoverthere @Cheshire_Ocelot @apropos >digging a hole is sometimes all you need to get to clean drinking water.
True. You can make a "coyote well" that produces clean water for a family in a day, with most of that time spent waiting for it to refill.
>In some towns the punishment for polluting water was being drowned, which tells us something about how important people thought having clean water was.
Wow. Based???
>Industries that polluted , such as tanners, were rarely allowed to do their work near drinking water and when they made a mess they would be heavily fined.
We can barely pull something like this off today, despite our "advanced civilization".Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: likes this. -
Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 01:09:11 JST
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@BowsacNoodle @Cheshire_Ocelot @apropos the problem isn't digging a well, but keeping it clean once that ground water is exposed. It's very easy for contaminants to pollute a well.
I don't mean to suggest no one ever had access to clean water mind you. You can't really make beer if there is too much competition for the yeast to get a good meal. It's a matter of preservation though (both of the grain and the water). Bottled water that hasn't undergone distillation or reverse osmosis can go foul. Using it to ferment something keeps that from happening, or at least extends the amount of time you can store and use it later. This would be really important on boats that are crossing large bodies of salt water I would imagine. Probably at least partially responsible for the idea of a drunken pirate. -
Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 01:21:51 JST
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@apropos @Cheshire_Ocelot @BowsacNoodle yeah I wasn't suggesting that plastic water bottles save lives or anything just that filtration/distillation helps to prevent fouling somewhat (as does refrigeration). That sounds like the plastic was probably exposed to uv or something. pretty gross.
You could always pour your water into a lead vessel after you distill it and give yourself lead poisoning too. In fact I have heard (possibly a myth) that pewter chalices are one reason we have wakes
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of nothing (apropos@freespeechextremist.com)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 01:21:52 JST
of nothing
@thatguyoverthere @BowsacNoodle @Cheshire_Ocelot
>Bottled water that hasn't undergone distillation or reverse osmosis can go foul.
bottled water can also become undrinkable from the plastic bottle decaying into the water, however clean it was to begin with.
story: on a military base in the middle east where completely free refrigerated water bottles were constantly available, they still sold dust-covered water bottles at the exchange. On a lark I bought one, took a sip, then spat it out as it tasted like death. These weren't 'microplastics', but visible shards throughout the water. -
Richard Carroll (cheshire_ocelot@cawfee.club)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 01:22:43 JST
Richard Carroll
@thatguyoverthere @apropos @BowsacNoodle the article does discuss laws around keeping water clean, e.g. keeping animals away. She doesn’t address how effective that was, though. Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: likes this. -
Santa Noodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 01:28:12 JST
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@thatguyoverthere @Cheshire_Ocelot @apropos I remember reading that pewter plates and serving ware was one of the reasons the tomato was thought to be dangerous to eat, as its juice and acidity caused lead leach at a very high rate. Who knows if this is true, like many old just-so-stories. Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: likes this. -
Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 01:29:31 JST
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@BowsacNoodle @Cheshire_Ocelot @apropos makes sense. you'd imagine the same to be true of ferments like beer as they tend to be higher acidity.
could all be fairy tales for all I know, but seems to make some amount of sense. -
Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 01:32:24 JST
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@BowsacNoodle @Cheshire_Ocelot @apropos I am a fan of uranium glassware myself. Nothing like ionizing radiation to help spice things up. -
Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 01:55:17 JST
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@BowsacNoodle @Cheshire_Ocelot @apropos yeah it's really cool stuff. I have a shard a friend gave me so that when I finally get around to building my Geiger counter I can test it -
Santa Noodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 01:55:18 JST
Santa Noodle ☦️
@thatguyoverthere @Cheshire_Ocelot @apropos Spicy water gang ☢️ -
Santa Noodle ☦️ (bowsacnoodle@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 01:55:18 JST
Santa Noodle ☦️
@thatguyoverthere @Cheshire_Ocelot @apropos Btw uranium glassware looks sweet. I've seen some that actually glows in the dark before. Rare, radioactive, and cool. Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: likes this. -
Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: (thatguyoverthere@shitposter.club)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 01:58:19 JST
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@BowsacNoodle @Cheshire_Ocelot @apropos correction. What I have is ceramic glazed with uranium. -
PoalackJokes88 (poalackjokes88@poa.st)'s status on Friday, 02-Jun-2023 02:15:21 JST 
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@thatguyoverthere @BowsacNoodle @Cheshire_Ocelot @apropos Drunken pirates are a thing because they were issued rations of grog (rum mixed with water or juice). Partly it was as you said, to preserve water, partly it was to hold off scurvy, because you could mix limes in and have some vitamin C, and partly it was to keep people happy in what was otherwise a pretty terrible job. Disinformation Purveyor :verified_think: likes this.
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